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Date and time 1992-04-27 16:00
Title Minutes interim-1992-iesg-11 1992-04-27 16:00
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minutes-interim-1992-iesg-11-199204271600-00
    IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

    REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE

    April 27th, 1992

    Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary

    This report contains

    - Meeting Agenda
    - Meeting Attendees
    - Meeting Notes

    Please contact IESG Secretary Greg Vaudreuil for more information.

    ATTENDEES
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    Almquist, Philip / Consultant
    Borman, David / Cray Research
    Chiappa, Noel
    Crocker, Steve / TIS
    Coya, Steve / CNRI
    Davin, Chuck / MIT
    Gross, Philip / ANS
    Hinden, Robert / BBN
    Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
    Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
    Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
    Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI

    Regrets
    Crocker, Dave / TBO
    Estrada, Susan / CERFnet
    Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
    Reynolds, Joyce / ISI

    AGENDA
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Bash the Agenda
    1.2 Approval of the Minutes
    No minutes ready for review
    1.3 Next Meeting

    2.0 Review of Action Items

    3.0 Protocol Actions
    3.1.1 IDPR
    3.1.2 PPP Authentication
    3.1.3 IP over X25/ISDN

    4.0 Old Protocol Actions

    Proposed Standards
    4.1 RFC 1144 VJ Header Compression
    4.2 RFC 1139 ISO "PING"
    4.3 RFC 1094 NFS
    4.4 RFC 1057 RPC
    4.5 RFC 1056 PCMAIL
    4.6 RFC 1037 NFILE
    4.7 RFC 1026, 987 X.400(84) <=> RFC 822 Mapping
    4.8 RFC 977 NNTP
    4.9 RFC 953 Hostname Server
    4.10 RFC 913 SFTP
    4.11 RFC 887 Resource Location
    4.12 RFC 734 SUPDUP
    Draft Standards
    4.13 RFC 1115, 1114, 1113 Privacy Enhanced Mail
    4.14 RFC 951, 1084 Bootstrap Protocol

    5.0 Technical Management Issues
    5.1 ROAD Recommendation
    5.2 Review of Reporting
    5.3 Remote Database Access over TCP
    5.4 Dead/Sleeping Working Groups
    5.5 IETF Plenary Meeting Schedule

    6.0 Working Group Actions
    To be created
    6.1 Network Access Servers (nasreq)
    To be Concluded/made dormant
    6.2 Router Discovery
    6.3 Bridge MIB
    6.4 Decnet Phase IV MIB

    MINUTES
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    1.0 Administrivia

    1.1 Review the Agenda

    The Agenda was reviewed and several topics were added.

    1.2 Review of Minutes

    No Minutes were available for review at this meeting.

    1.3 Next Meeting

    The next meeting was set for Monday April 4th, EDT.

    2.0 Review of Action Items

    Review of the action items was deferred.

    3.0 Protocol Actions

    3.1 InterDomain Policy Routing (IDPR)

    Discussion is continuing on the IDPR Working Group mailing list. The
    topics include questions on the intended standardization status and
    technical design choices. To broaden the discussion, and clarify
    the intended status for IDPR, the IESG. agreed that the current
    recommendation from the working group for Proposed Standard should
    be sent to the IETF as a last call.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IESG for the elevation of
    IDPR to Proposed Standard.

    3.2 PPP Authentication

    A new version of this document was posted to the Internet Draft
    directory. It was not clear whether this was the latest version nor
    whether it satisfied the editorial concerns of the Security area.
    Pending clarification of the version number, the IESG approved this
    document for Proposed Standard.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Work with Steve Crocker to determine if the latest
    PPP Authentication Internet Draft is the latest version, and if so send
    a recommendation to the IAB.

    3.3 IP over X.25/ ISDN Packet Mode

    The IESG received a request to elevate the IP over X.25 document to
    Proposed Standard. A last call has been issued and has not yet
    expired. Technical discussion on this protocol was deferred until
    the next meeting.

    4.0 Old Protocol Actions

    The IESG has begun the task of reviewing protocols which have been
    in grade for more than 2 years. During this meeting the IESG made a
    first cut and assigned reviewers for the protocols. The RFCs discussed are
    listed below.

    4.1 RFC 1139 ISO PING

    Dave Piscitello took an action to review the current implementation
    and operational experience of this protocol.

    ACTION: Piscitello -- Contact Sue Hares to begin an investigation into
    the implementation and operational status of this protocol to determine
    if it is ready for Draft Standard.

    4.2 RFC 1139 NFS
    4.3 RFC 1194 RPC

    These protocols are in a confused state. They document widely used
    but proprietary protocols and would not meet current requirements
    for Proposed Standards. It is also not clear whether these
    documents reflect the latest versions of the protocols nor the
    versions widely implemented.

    The IESG feels that these protocols are appropriate candidates for
    standardization provided the normal IAB standardization rules and
    proceedures can be met. There has been sporadic dialogue with SUN
    Microsystems on the status of these protocols. If Sun does not
    desire to standardize these protocols with the current rules, the
    IESG will recommend moving these protocols to historical state.

    ACTION: Borman -- Contact Sun and explain the current status of NFS and
    RPC and the new requirements for standard track protocols. Determine
    if Sun is interested in pursuing standardization.

    4.13 Privacy Enhanced Mail

    At the request of the PEM working group, the IESG decided to
    recommend moving the PEM protocol as defined in RFCs 1113 1114 and
    1115 to historical status. This action will hopefully reduce
    confusion for implementors of PEM who continue to use these outdated
    specifications. By recommending that the RFC's defining PEM be moved
    to Historical Standard, the IESG is not recommending that PEM itself
    be moved to Historical Standard. It is expected that PEM as defined
    in several Internet drafts will become a Proposed Standard in the
    near future.

    Action: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call for comments on moving the RFC's
    defining PEM to Historical Status.

    4.14 RFC 951, 1084 Bootstrap Protocol

    The Dynamic Host configuration Working Group is using Bootp as the
    basic of the DHC protocol. Bootp as defined in RFC 1084 needs
    clarifications. A document in the Internet Drafts directory
    describes updates and clarifications to Bootp. BootP as written
    should not advance. There is some talk of making a bootp version 2
    which includes the work of the DHC Working Group. The future
    status of Bootp needs clarification.

    ACTION: Chiappa and Borman -- Research and present to the IESG a
    recommendation for the disposition of RFCs 951 and 1084, the Bootstrap Protocol.

    5.0 Technical Management Issues

    5.5 IETF Plenary Meeting Schedule

    The IESG continued the discussion on the IETF plenary schedule and
    decided to move the Open plenary to Thursday Evening to open up more
    time for working group sessions. The IESG will meet together after
    the plenary session for a dinner and short working session. The
    IESG will continue to have lunch on Wednesday, but opted against
    using another evening to conduct business that could be done by
    teleconference.

    The new schedule:

    Mon. Tue. Wed. Thu. Fri.
    0900-0930 Plen Tech Tech Tech Tech

    0930-1200 WG WG WG WG Area Reports

    1330-1530 WG WG WG WG

    1600-1800 WG WG WG Tech

    1900-2200 BOF/WG** BOF/WG BOF/WG Open Plenary

    The following Topics were deferred until the next meeting.

    5.1 Routing and Addressing Recommendation.

    The draft IESG recommendation was not yet ready for review.

    5.2 Review of Reporting

    5.3 Remote Database Access over TCP

    Russ Hobby was unable to attend the IESG teleconference and discuss this issue.

    5.4 Dormant/Dead working groups

    5.6 TSIG/ IETF Interactions

    6.0 Working Group Actions
    To be created
    6.1 Network Access Servers (nasreq)
    To be Concluded/made dormant
    6.2 Router Discovery
    6.3 Bridge MIB
    6.4 Decnet Phase IV MIB