Minutes interim-2004-iesg-04 2004-02-19 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the February 19, 2004 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison)
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Henrik Levkowetz / PROTO Team Member
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Dave Meyer / PROTO Team Member
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent

    REGRETS
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    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the February 5, 2004 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved Since the February 5, 2004 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-vrrp-spec-v2-10.txt (Draft Standard)
    o draft-orman-public-key-lengths-08.txt (BCP)
    o draft-klyne-msghdr-registry-07.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-tls-compression-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-eap-rfc2284bis-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-newman-esmtpsa-01.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-weltman-ldapv3-auth-response-09.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-reqs-06.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-06.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-opes-threats-03.txt (Informational RFC)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    NONE

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings
    using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting
    experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
    o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue.
    o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations.
    o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send
    to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision
    on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC Editor.
    o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC
    Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions.
    o Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott Bradner on a
    description of the purpose of and procedures for the new-work mailing
    list.
    o Steve Bellovin to prepare input for a discussion of the relation
    between the IESG and the RFC Editor at the Seoul IETF Meeting.
    o Ted Hardie to write up a procedure based on the W3C's communication
    to the IESG regarding MIME Part 4 update.
    o Thomas Narten to suggest an updated charter for the PPPEXT working
    Group that describes it as a standard maintenance group.
    o Bert Wijnen, Thomas Narten, and David Kessens to work with David
    Meyer to clarify details on a particular IANA request and see if
    there are any other appropriate action items.

    NEW:

    o Harald Alvestrand to get text for the charter of NEWTRK about the
    addition of discussion of document labeling to its work items.
    o Bill Fenner to talk to Scott Bradner to inquire about ITU's intentions
    or plans for studying BGP filtering.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-zeroconf-ipv4-linklocal-13.txt - 1 of 8
    Dynamic Configuration of Link-Local IPv4 Addresses (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie, Margaret Wasserman, and
    Alex Zinin.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 2 of 8
    - draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-feedback-08.txt
    Extended RTP Profile for RTCP-based Feedback(RTP/AVPF) (Proposed
    Standard)
    - draft-burmeister-avt-rtcp-feedback-sim-05.txt
    Extended RTP Profile for RTCP-based Feedback - Results of the
    Timing Rule Simulations (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Allison Mankin on
    behalf of IANA.*

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2011-update-07.txt - 3 of 8
    Management Information Base for the Internet Protocol (IP)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-dhc-server-mib-10.txt - 4 of 8
    Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol for IPv4 (DHCPv4) Server
    MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference
    (03/18/2004) by Bert Wijnen.

    o draft-ietf-dhc-auth-suboption-03.txt - 5 of 8
    The Authentication Suboption for the DHCP Relay Agent Option
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley, Allison Mankin, and
    Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-clearmode-04.txt - 6 of 8
    RTP payload format for a 64 kbit/s transparent call (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ned Freed, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-send-cga-05.txt - 7 of 8
    Cryptographically Generated Addresses (CGA) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-pkix-sonof3039-05.txt - 8 of 8
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure: Qualified Certificates
    Profile (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-sigtran-sua-16.txt - 1 of 4
    Signalling Connection Control Part User Adaptation Layer (SUA)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-mobileip-16.txt - 2 of 4
    Diameter Mobile IPv4 Application (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Russ Housley, and
    Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-mpls-in-ip-or-gre-05.txt - 3 of 4
    Encapsulating MPLS in IP or Generic Routing Encapsulation (GRE)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Thomas Narten, and
    Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-prsctp-03.txt - 4 of 4
    SCTP Partial Reliability Extension (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-eastlake-ip-mime-08.txt - 1 of 5
    IP over MIME (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Thomas Narten, Bert
    Wijnen, and Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-weltman-ldapv3-proxy-12.txt - 2 of 5
    LDAP Proxied Authentication Control (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference
    (03/18/2004) by Harald Alvestrand.

    o draft-moore-auto-email-response-05.txt - 3 of 5
    Recommendations for Automatic Responses to Electronic Mail
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-legg-ldap-cmr-module-00.txt - 4 of 5
    ASN.1 Module Definition for the LDAP & X.500 Component Matching
    Rules (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-malamud-no-soliciting-06.txt - 5 of 5
    A No Soliciting SMTP Service Extension (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item
    o draft-zeilenga-ldap-authzid-08.txt - 1 of 1
    LDAP 'Who am I?' Operation (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was removed from the IESG Teleconference agenda by
    Ted Hardie. The Secretariat placed the document on the agenda for
    the next IESG Teleconference (03/18/2004).

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-trade-iotp-v1.0-papi-05.txt - 1 of 4
    Payment API for v1.0 Internet Open Trading Protocol (IOTP)
    (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-seamoby-card-protocol-06.txt - 2 of 4
    Candidate Access Router Discovery (Experimental)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Russ Housley, and
    Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-pkix-pkixrep-02.txt - 3 of 4
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Repository Locator Service
    (Experimental)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-mip4-vpn-problem-statement-02.txt - 4 of 4
    Problem Statement: Mobile IPv4 Traversal of VPN Gateways
    (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference
    (03/18/2004) by Allison Mankin.

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-opes-iab-04.txt - 1 of 2
    OPES Treatment of IAB Considerations (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-opes-end-comm-06.txt - 2 of 2
    OPES entities and end points communication (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie and Allison Mankin.*

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-eastlake-rfc2777bis-selection-03.txt - 1 of 2
    Publicly Verifiable Nomcom Random Selection (Informational)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    o draft-zilles-pdf-02.txt - 2 of 2
    The application/pdf Media Type (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    o draft-huston-ipv6-documentation-prefix-03.txt - 1 of 1
    IPv6 Address Prefix reserved for Documentation (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document was approved by the IESG pending additional text
    for the approval announcement to be prepared by Thomas Narten.
    The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document
    Action Announcement that includes the additional text.

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-baker-slem-architecture-02.txt - 1 of 2
    Cisco Support for Lawful Intercept In IP Networks (Informational)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Ted Hardie.

    o Two-document ballot: - 2 of 2
    - draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-07.txt
    SMIng - Next Generation Structure of Management Information
    (Experimental)
    - draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-snmp-05.txt
    SMIng Mappings to SNMP (Experimental)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing these documents.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor.

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    NONE
    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    NONE
    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    o New IETF Standards Track Discussion (newtrk) - 1 of 4
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
    additional text for the charter to be prepared by Harald
    Alvestrand. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o Routing Area Working Group (rtgwg) - 2 of 4
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o Link-Enhancing Transport Intermediary Communication (letic) - 3 of 4
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working
    group at this time. The Secretariat will place the working
    group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (03/18/2004).

    o Host Identity Payload (hip) - 4 of 4
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o Transport Area Working Group (tsvwg) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues
    7.1 ITU plans for BGP filtering (Steve Bellovin)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Bill Fenner to talk to Scott Bradner to inquire
    about ITU's intentions or plans for studying BGP filtering.

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