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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the August 19, 2004 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA)
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent

    REGRETS
    ------------
    Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison)
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    MINUTES
    ---------------

    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the July 22, 2004 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in
    the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved Since the July 22, 2004 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-sip-session-timer-15.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-raeburn-krb-rijndael-krb-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-nasreq-17.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ipsec-udp-encaps-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-rmonmib-sspm-mib-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-xmpp-e2e-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-clearmode-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-blunk-rpslng-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-iptel-rfc2806bis-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-mboned-embeddedrp-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-send-ndopt-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ymbk-downref-03.txt (BCP)
    o draft-klensin-process-july14-02.txt (BCP)
    o draft-iesg-rfced-documents-03.txt (BCP)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-gurbani-sin-02.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-l2vpn-l2-framework-08.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-midcom-semantics-08.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-security-04.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-v6ops-isp-scenarios-analysis-03.txt (Informational RFC)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    NONE

    DELETED:

    o The Secretariat to save the alternative procedure for
    updating MIB modules for their use.

    IN PROGRESS:

    o David Kessens, Steve Bellovin, and Alex Zinin to discuss a charter
    for a new Operations and Management Area working group for OPSEC.
    o Bill Fenner to determine with WG chairs whether a liaison with OIF is
    desirable, and will inform the IAB of the decision.
    o Applications ADs to evaluate the situation with regards to MIME type
    review, and see how we can ensure the review turnaround times specified
    in the MIME registration procedures.
    o Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten to compose a message for the IESG and
    IAB related to 3GPP's Release 6 publication deadline and expedited documents.
    o Harald Alvestrand to clarify what actions are needed to enforce the new
    boilerplate. August 19, 2004 is the proposed deadline for accepting I-Ds
    with old boilerplates. All I-Ds submitted after this date require the use
    of the new boilerplate.
    o Allison Mankin will encourage Dave Meyer to go forward with his I-D on
    IETF minutes, and will suggest some IESG points for it.

    NEW:

    o The Secretariat to add Aaron Falk to the iesg@ietf.org mailing list and
    to teleconference participation materials.
    o Margaret Wasserman to take the lead in drafting a description of the
    positions to be filled by the NomCom. Allison Mankin, Thomas Narten, and
    Alex Zinin will do an initial review; the document should be ready to be
    reviewed by the IESG before the next teleconference (09/02/2004).
    o Harald Alvestrand, with others as required, to have a discussion with
    Alex Zinin regarding the time commitment and role of a NomCom liaison.
    o Bert Wijnen to collect IESG and IANA feedback on openBSD/carp IANA
    assignments and send the collective feedback to the IAB.

    MOVED TO PROJECTS:

    o Bert Wijnen to finalize text for the alternative procedure for updating
    MIB modules and put it on www.ops.ietf.org Web site.
    o Bert Wijnen to provide text for the alternative procedure for updating
    MIB modules to the Secretariat, so the Secretariat can make sure
    Internet-Drafts follow this procedure.

    1.4 Review of Projects

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-smime-cms-seed-01.txt - 1 of 3
    Use of the SEED Encryption Algorithm in CMS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-esp-ah-algorithms-01.txt - 2 of 3
    Cryptographic Algorithm Implementation Requirements For ESP And AH (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-geopriv-pidf-lo-02.txt - 3 of 3
    A Presence-based GEOPRIV Location Object Format (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item

    o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-mobileip-20.txt - 1 of 6
    Diameter Mobile IPv4 Application (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-sigtran-m2pa-12.txt - 2 of 6
    Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2 (MTP2) - User Peer-to-Peer
    Adaptation Layer (M2PA) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    o draft-ietf-rmonmib-tpm-mib-14.txt - 3 of 6
    Transport Performance Metrics MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Allison Mankin.*

    o Four-document ballot: - 4 of 6
    - draft-ietf-tewg-diff-te-proto-07.txt
    Protocol extensions for support of Differentiated-Service-aware MPLS
    Traffic Engineering (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-tewg-diff-te-mam-03.txt
    Maximum Allocation Bandwidth Constraints Model for Diff-Serv-aware
    MPLS Traffic Engineering (Experimental)
    - draft-ietf-tewg-diff-te-mar-04.txt
    Max Allocation with Reservation Bandwidth Constraint Model for MPLS/DiffServ
    TE & Performance Comparisons (Experimental)
    - draft-ietf-tewg-diff-te-russian-06.txt
    Russian Dolls Bandwidth Constraints Model for Diff-Serv-aware MPLS Traffic
    Engineering (Experimental)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Scott Hollenbeck, Allison Mankin, Thomas Narten, and Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-tewg-mib-08.txt - 5 of 6
    A Traffic Engineering MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
    prepared by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-dhc-subscriber-id-06.txt - 6 of 6
    DHCP Subscriber ID Suboption for the DHCP Relay Agent Option (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie, and Margaret Wasserman on behalf of IANA.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    NONE

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-fax-gateway-options-07.txt - 1 of 5
    Guideline of optional services for Internet FAX Gateway (Informational)
    Token: Scott Hollenbeck

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Harald Alvestrand and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-nsis-signalling-analysis-04.txt - 2 of 5
    Analysis of Existing Quality of Service Signaling Protocols (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Allison Mankin.*

    o draft-ietf-tewg-interas-mpls-te-req-08.txt - 3 of 5
    MPLS Inter-AS Traffic Engineering requirements (Informational)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-scenarios-05.txt - 4 of 5
    IPv6 Enterprise Network Scenarios (Informational)
    Token: David Kessens

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by David Kessens. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-capwap-problem-statement-01.txt - 5 of 5
    CAPWAP Problem Statement (Informational)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Harald Alvestrand.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    o draft-dcsgroup-sipping-arch-01.txt - 1 of 1
    Architectural Considerations for Providing Carrier Class Telephony
    Services Utilizing Session Initiation Protocol SIP-based Distributed
    Call Control Mechanisms (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie, Russ Housley, and Bert Wijnen.*

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    o draft-foster-mgcp-lockstep-01.txt - 1 of 3
    Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Lockstep State Reporting
    Mechanism (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson.

    o draft-foster-mgcp-redirect-05.txt - 2 of 3
    Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Redirect and Reset Package
    (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson.

    o draft-motonori-dualstack-smtp-requirement-01.txt - 3 of 3
    SMTP Operational Experience in Mixed IPv4/v6 Environments (Informational)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues
    7.1 Additional person in RFC Editor Liaison role (Harald Alvestrand)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to accept the
    request from the RFC Editor to add Aaron Falk to the IESG mailing
    list and the IESG Teleconferences.
    Action item: The Secretariat to add Aaron Falk to iesg@ietf.org
    mailing list and to teleconference participation materials.

    7.2 IESG liaison to 2004-2005 Nomcom (Harald Alvestrand)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG did not make a decision
    at this time regarding the IESG Liaison to the NomCom.
    Action item: Margaret Wasserman to take the lead in drafting a
    description of the positions to be filled by the NomCom. Allison
    Mankin, Thomas Narten, and Alex Zinin will do an initial review;
    the document should be ready to be reviewed by the IESG before the
    next teleconference (09/02/2004).
    Action item: Harald Alvestrand, with others as required, to have a
    discussion with Alex Zinin regarding the time commitment and role
    of a NomCom liaison.

    7.3 OpenBSD/Carp IANA assignments (Bert Wijnen)

    The management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Bert Wijnen to collect IESG and IANA feedback on
    openBSD/carp IANA assignments and send the collective feedback
    to the IAB.

    7.4 RFC Editor issues (Joyce Reynolds)

    The management issue was not discussed. The issue was resolved prior
    to the beginning of the IESG Teleconference.

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    (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
    on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.