Minutes interim-2006-iesg-04 2006-02-16 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the February 16, 2006 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Brian Carpenter (IBM) / IETF Chair, General Area
    Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
    Leslie Daigle (Cisco) / IAB Chair
    Spencer Dawkins (Futurewei) / Scribe
    Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
    Bill Fenner (AT&T) / Routing Area
    Barbara Fuller (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie (Qualcomm, Inc.)/ Applications Area
    Sam Hartman (MIT) / Security Area
    Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / Security Area
    David Kessens (Nokia) / Operations and Management Area
    Allison Mankin / Transport Area
    Dave Meyer (Cisco/University of Oregon) / IAB Liaison
    Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Transport Area
    Joyce K. Reynolds (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
    Barbara Roseman (ICANN) / IANA liaison
    Dinara Suleymanova (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
    Amy Vezza (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / Internet Area
    Bert Wijnen (Lucent) / Operations and Management Area
    Alex Zinin (Alcatel) / Routing Area

    REGRETS
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    Scott Hollenbeck (VeriSign)/ Applications Area
    Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the February 2, 2006 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
    archives

    1.2 Documents Approved since the February 2, 2006 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-midi-format-15.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ips-scsi-mib-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ldapbis-bcp64-07.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-new-26.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc1832bis-06.txt (Standard)
    o draft-ietf-pkix-acpolicies-extn-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-sieve-vacation-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-songlee-aes-cmac-96-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-zeilenga-ldap-cosine-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-zeilenga-ldap-ext-10.txt (BCP)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-camarillo-sipping-user-database-02.txt (Informational)
    o draft-hoschka-smil-media-type-12.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-midi-guidelines-15.txt (Informational)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Brian Carpenter to follow up on the discussion of the proposal to
    announce Internet-Drafts when they become WG items for re-review. o Allison
    Mankin to send mail to follow up with the IETF Chair regarding the Convedia
    Agreement, and to contact Russ Housley about volunteering to help with this
    issue.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Bert Wijnen to update the I-D Checklist to talk about example phone
    numbers.

    NEW:

    NONE

    1.4 Review of Projects

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o Three-document ballot: - 1 of 13
    - draft-ietf-rmonmib-raqmon-framework-15.txt
    Real-time Application Quality of Service Monitoring (RAQMON) Framework
    (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-rmonmib-raqmon-mib-12.txt Real-time
    Application Quality of Service Monitoring (RAQMON) MIB (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-rmonmib-raqmon-pdu-12.txt Transport Mappings for Real-time
    Application Quality of Service Monitoring (RAQMON) Protocol Data Unit (PDU)
    (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie and Sam Hartman.*

    o draft-ietf-ipcdn-pktc-mtamib-09.txt - 2 of 13
    Multimedia Terminal Adapter (MTA) Management Information Base for
    PacketCable and IPCablecom compliant devices (Proposed Standard) Token:
    Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Allison Mankin.*

    o draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-node-id-based-hello-02.txt - 3 of 13
    Node ID based RSVP Hello: A Clarification Statement (BCP)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the
    teleconference.

    o draft-ietf-msec-newtype-keyid-04.txt - 4 of 13
    The Key ID Information Type for the General Extension Payload in MIKEY
    (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman.*

    o draft-ietf-grow-rfc1519bis-04.txt - 5 of 13
    Classless Inter-Domain Routing (CIDR): The Internet Address Assignment and
    Aggregation Plan (Proposed Standard) Token: David Kessens

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-mip4-rfc3012bis-05.txt - 6 of 13
    Mobile IPv4 Challenge/Response Extensions (revised) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Scott Hollenbeck and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-dnsext-tsig-sha-06.txt - 7 of 13
    HMAC SHA TSIG Algorithm Identifiers (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-sip-app-11.txt - 8 of 13
    Diameter Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Application (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (03/02/2006) by
    Sam Hartman.

    o Three-document ballot: - 9 of 13
    - draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3036bis-03.txt
    LDP Specification (Draft Standard)
    - draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-experience-00.txt
    Experience with the LDP protocol (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-survey2002-00.txt
    LDP Implementation Survey Results (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman and Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-sieve-3431bis-04.txt - 10 of 13
    Sieve Extension: Relational Tests (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Scott Hollenbeck

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o Two-document ballot: - 11 of 13
    - draft-ietf-cat-kerberos-pk-init-34.txt
    Public Key Cryptography for Initial Authentication in Kerberos (Proposed
    Standard) - draft-ietf-krb-wg-ocsp-for-pkinit-06.txt OCSP Support for
    PKINIT (Proposed Standard) Token: Sam Hartman

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman.*

    o draft-ietf-pkix-gost-cppk-05.txt - 12 of 13
    Using the GOST R 34.10-94, GOST R 34.10-2001 and GOST R 34.11-94 algorithms
    with the Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Certificate and CRL
    Profile. (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-sip-refer-with-norefersub-04.txt - 13 of 13
    Suppression of Session Initiation Protocol REFER Method Implicit
    Subscription (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor
    Note prepared by Allison Mankin.

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-idr-cease-subcode-07.txt - 1 of 4
    Subcodes for BGP Cease Notification Message (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bill Fenner

    The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the
    teleconference.

    o draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-civil-09.txt - 2 of 4
    Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCPv4 and DHCPv6) Option for Civic
    Addresses Configuration Information (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Mark Townsley.*

    o draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-bgp-06.txt - 3 of 4
    Virtual Private LAN Service (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Bill Fenner, Sam Hartman, Russ Housley, David Kessens and
    Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-ldp-08.txt - 4 of 4
    Virtual Private LAN Services over MPLS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Bill Fenner, Scott Hollenbeck, and Alex Zinin.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    NONE

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-mip6-firewalls-04.txt - 1 of 5
    Mobile IPv6 and Firewalls: Problem statement (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-dhc-dual-stack-04.txt - 2 of 5
    DHCP: IPv4 and IPv6 Dual-Stack Issues (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-sipping-trait-authz-02.txt - 3 of 5
    Trait-based Authorization Requirements for the Session Initiation Protocol
    (SIP) (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-capwap-eval-00.txt - 4 of 5
    Evaluation of Candidate CAPWAP Protocols (Informational)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-capwap-objectives-04.txt - 5 of 5
    Objectives for Control and Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (CAPWAP)
    (Informational) Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-mehta-rmt-flute-sdp-05.txt - 1 of 2
    SDP Descriptors for FLUTE (Experimental)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Allison Mankin on behalf of IANA.*

    o draft-nir-ikev2-auth-lt-05.txt - 2 of 2
    Repeated Authentication in IKEv2 (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Brian Carpenter.*

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE
    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-white-pathconsiderations-05.txt - 1 of 2
    Considerations in Validating the Path in BGP (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an IESG Note prepared by Alex Zinin.

    o draft-stiemerling-midcom-simco-08.txt - 2 of 2
    Simple Middlebox Configuration (SIMCO) Protocol Version 3.0 (Experimental)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an IESG Note and an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by
    Jon Peterson.

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o Email Address Internationalization (eai) - 1 of 1
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to the
    text of the charter to be provided by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send
    a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The
    Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG
    Teleconference (03/02/2006).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    o Secure Inter-Domain Routing (sidr) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter at this time. The
    Secretariat will wait for instructions from Alex Zinin.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff Optimization (mipshop) - 1 of 3
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate
    message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the
    agenda for the next IESG teleconference (03/02/2006).

    o Intellectual Property Rights (ipr) - 2 of 3
    Token: Brian Carpenter

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter
    pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Brian Carpenter.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
    separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on
    the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (03/02/2006).

    o TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions (tcpm) - 3 of 3
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. IAB News We Can Use

    6. Management Issues
    6.1 Appointing IESG Whips (Brian Carpenter)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to appoint Bill Fenner
    and Russ Housley as IESG Whips, specifically to focus on procedural
    efficiency. They will update the job description discussed at the recent
    IESG retreat. The word "whip" is borrowed from its use in many
    parliamentary systems such as those of India or Singapore.

    6.2 Response to Morfin Appeal Against draft-ietf-ltru-registry (Sam Hartman)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the response to the
    Morfin Appeal Against draft-ietf-ltru-registry.

    6.3 Appointment of interim reviewer for the URI registries created under
    RFC 4395. (Ted Hardie)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the appointment of
    Graham Klyne as the interim reviewer for the URI registries created under
    RFC 4395.

    6.4 Appeal response to J-F. C. Morfin's appeal to his suspension from the
    ietf-languages mailing list. (Ted Hardie)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the response to J-F.
    C. Morfin's appeal of his suspension from the ietf-languages mailing list.

    6.5 IESG appointment to IAOC (Brian Carpenter)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG has selected Kurtis Lindqvist
    for a two-year stint on the IAOC from March 2006.

    6.6 Confirmation of NomCom nominee for IAOC (Brian Carpenter)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG confirmed the nomination.

    6.7 For approval: IESG Statement on disruptive posting (Brian Carpenter)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the IESG Statement on
    disruptive posting. The statement will be announced on the IETF Announcement
    list and posted on the IESG Statements Web page.

    7. Working Group News We Can Use

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