Minutes interim-2009-iesg-20 2009-10-22 15:30
minutes-interim-2009-iesg-20-200910221530-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 22, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Messaging Architects) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 8, 2009 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 8, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 8, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-behave-turn-16.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-bfd-v4v6-1hop-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-10.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-09.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-ancp-security-threats-08.txt (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management-09.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE
    P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP document.

    Resolution: Bernard Aboba is reviewing the document.

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Russ Housley to work with the Secretariat to come up with an
    implementation plan for tracking changes to working group
    charters.
  o Lisa Dusseault to investigate the request to add a new Atom Link
    Relation type for the PubSubHubbub protocol and report back at the
    next telechat (October 22, 2009).
  o Lars Eggert and Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one
    document updates another.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-syslog-sign-28.txt
    Signed syslog Messages (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 14
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (November 19,
2009) by Cullen Jennings.

  o draft-ietf-rmt-pi-alc-revised-09.txt
    Asynchronous Layered Coding (ALC) Protocol Instantiation (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 14
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-ietf-sip-certs-09.txt
    Certificate Management Service for The Session Initiation Protocol
    (SIP) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 14
    Token: Robert Sparks

Cullen Jennings formally recused himself from the discussion. The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, Russ Housley, Alexey
Melnikov and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-hokey-key-mgm-09.txt
    Distribution of EAP based keys for handover and re-authentication
    (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 14
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko and Pasi Eronen.*

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc3388bis-03.txt
    The SDP (Session Description Protocol) Grouping Framework (Proposed
    Standard) - 5 of 14
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley, Alexey Melnikov, Dan
Romascanu and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6-09.txt
    Fast Handovers for Proxy Mobile IPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 14
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, Russ Housley
and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-vcarddav-carddav-09.txt
    vCard Extensions to WebDAV (CardDAV) (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 14
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp-08.txt
    BGP Encodings and Procedures for Multicast in MPLS/BGP IP VPNs
    (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 14
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ross Callon.*

  o draft-ietf-sasl-scram-10.txt
    Salted Challenge Response (SCRAM) SASL and GSS-API Mechanism
    (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 14
    Token: Pasi Eronen

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-pre-evaluation-00.txt
    Preliminary Evaluation of RFC 1652 for Advancement to Full Standard
    (Standard) - 10 of 14
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document is no longer under discussion by the IESG.  Alexey
Melnikov will follow up on progression of RFC 1652 to Full Standard.

  o draft-ietf-pkix-sha2-dsa-ecdsa-10.txt
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure: Additional Algorithms and
    Identifiers for DSA and ECDSA (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 14
    Token: Pasi Eronen

Tim Polk formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor
Note prepared by Pasi Eronen.

  o draft-ietf-dhc-vpn-option-11.txt
    Virtual Subnet Selection Options for DHCPv4 and DHCPv6 (Proposed
    Standard) - 12 of 14
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Lars Eggert, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-gach-dcn-06.txt
    An Inband Data Communication Network For the MPLS Transport Profile
    (Proposed Standard) - 13 of 14
    Token: Ross Callon

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

  o draft-ietf-dhc-relay-id-suboption-07.txt
    The DHCPv4 Relay Agent Identifier Suboption (Proposed Standard) -
    14 of 14
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley and Tim Polk.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-avt-post-repair-rtcp-xr-06.txt
    Post-Repair Loss RLE Report Block Type for RTCP XR (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Cullen Jennings. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
    NONE

2.2.2 Returning Item
  o draft-wilde-sms-uri-19.txt
    URI Scheme for GSM Short Message Service (Proposed Standard) - 1 of
    1
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Sparks.*

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-krb-wg-cross-problem-statement-05.txt
    Problem statement on the cross-realm operation of Kerberos
    (Informational) - 1 of 7
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-geopriv-lbyr-requirements-08.txt
    Requirements for a Location-by-Reference Mechanism (Informational)
    - 2 of 7
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-eai-pop-07.txt
    POP3 Support for UTF-8 (Experimental) - 3 of 7
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-ipv6-config-02.txt
    IPv6 Configuration in IKEv2 (Experimental) - 4 of 7
    Token: Tim Polk

Pasi Eronen formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Jari Arkko and Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-term-12.txt
    Terminology for Benchmarking IPsec Devices (Informational) - 5 of 7
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (November 19,
2009) by Cullen Jennings.

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-meth-05.txt
    Methodology for Benchmarking IPsec Devices (Informational) - 6 of 7
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (November 19,
2009) by Cullen Jennings.

  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-federated-fs-reqts-05.txt
    Requirements for Federated File Systems (Informational) - 7 of 7
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Lars Eggert. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
    NONE

3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
  o draft-braden-independent-submission-01.txt
    Procedures for Rights Handling in the RFC Independent Stream
    (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Russ Housley.

3.3.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.3.3 For Action
  o draft-wu-softwire-4over6-03.txt
    4over6 Transit Solution using IP Encapsulation and MP-BGP
    Extensions (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Ralph Droms for review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Internet Area Working Group (intareawg) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (November 19, 2009).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  o Handover Keying (hokey) - 1 of 1
    Token: Tim Polk

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will
place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (November
19, 2009).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

 6.1 Link Relations Request [IANA #259813] (Lisa Dusseault)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.2 Planned boilerplate changes in xml2rfc (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.3 Response to 3gpp on the liaison about a joint meeting (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the liaison
response to 3gpp.

7. Working Group News

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