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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 17, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
---------------------------------
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Linden Labs) / Applications Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
---------------------------------
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
---------------------------------

1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the December 3, 2009 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the December 3, 2009 Teleconference were
approved as amended.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes
in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the December 3, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-dusseault-http-patch-16.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-hokey-key-mgm-13.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mboned-lightweight-igmpv3-mldv2-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec-05.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-behave-nat-behavior-discovery-08.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-reschke-rfc2731bis-05.txt (Informational)
  o draft-seokung-msec-mikey-seed-05.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Lars Eggert and Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one
    document updates another.

NEW
  o Cullen Jennings to propose updated text for the response to the YAM
    working group in regards to rfc1652bis-pre-evaluation
  o Lisa Dusseault will review the Link Relations Request for IANA ticket
    #285113.
  o Lisa Dusseault to find a designated expert for RFC 3688 - IETF XML
    registry.
  o Robert Sparks to find a designated expert for RFC 3611 - RTCP XR Block
    Types & RTCP XR SDP Parameters.


2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-admitted-realtime-dscp-06.txt
    DSCP for Capacity-Admitted Traffic (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 11
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-ipfix-mib-09.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for IP Flow Information Export (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 11
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-rohc-ipsec-extensions-hcoipsec-06.txt
    IPsec Extensions to Support Robust Header Compression over IPsec
    (ROHCoIPsec) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 11
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

  o draft-ietf-rohc-ikev2-extensions-hcoipsec-10.txt
    IKEv2 Extensions to Support Robust Header Compression over IPsec
    (ROHCoIPsec) (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 11
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-09.txt
    Multicast in MPLS/BGP IP VPNs (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 11
    Token: Ross Callon

The IESG will continue the discussion of this document at the next
IESG teleconference (January 7, 2010).

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-11.txt
    Wrapped ESP for Traffic Visibility (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 11
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Russ Housley, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-confirm-data-channel-status-09.txt
    Data Channel Status Confirmation Extensions for the Link Management
    Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 11
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-ospfv3-pece-04.txt
    OSPFv3 as a PE-CE routing protocol (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 11
    Token: Ross Callon

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Ross Callon. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-morg-status-in-list-01.txt
    IMAP4 Extension for returning STATUS information in extended LIST
    (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 11
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion. The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Lisa Dusseault.

  o draft-ietf-rohc-rfc4995bis-02.txt
    The RObust Header Compression (ROHC) Framework (Proposed Standard) - 10
    of 11
    Note: Carl Knutsson (carl.knutsson@effnet.com) is the document shepherd
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Magnus Westerlund. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-tls-renegotiation-01.txt
    Transport Layer Security (TLS) Renegotiation Indication Extension
    (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 11
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Pasi Eronen. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

2.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-klensin-ftp-registry-03.txt
    FTP Command and Extension Registry (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Alexey Melnikov.

  o draft-nottingham-site-meta-04.txt
    Defining Well-Known URIs (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 3
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings, Dan Romascanu and Robert Saprks.*

  o draft-melnikov-imap-keywords-10.txt
    IMAP4 Keyword Registry (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Lisa Dusseault. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

2.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-rohc-hcoipsec-12.txt
    Integration of Robust Header Compression (ROHC) over IPsec Security
    Associations (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-early-rexmt-03.txt
    Early Retransmit for TCP and SCTP (Experimental) - 2 of 2
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms and Adrian Farrel.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-08.txt
    Multicast DNS (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley, Cullen
Jennings and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-weiler-rsync-uri-01.txt
    The rsync URI Scheme (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ross Callon

Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by
Ross Callon. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document
Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

3.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor or IRTF
3.3.1 New Item
  o draft-spencer-usefor-son-of-1036-01.txt
    "Son of 1036": News Article Format and Transmission (Historic) - 1 of 1
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Lisa Dusseault.

3.3.2 Returning Item
  o draft-hajjeh-tls-identity-protection-09.txt
    Credential Protection Ciphersuites for Transport Layer Security (TLS)
    (Experimental) - 1 of 2
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared Pasi Eronen.

  o draft-zeilenga-ldap-txn-15.txt
    LDAP Transactions (Experimental) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Alexey Melnikov.

3.3.3 For Action
  o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost34102001-07.txt
    GOST R 34.10-2001 digital signature algorithm (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Russ Housley for 3932 review.

  o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost341194-06.txt
    GOST R 34.11-94 Hash function algorithm (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Russ Housley for 3932 review.

  o draft-dolmatov-cryptocom-gost2814789-06.txt
    GOST 28147-89 encryption, decryption and MAC algorithms (Informational) –
    3 of 3
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Russ Housley for 3932 review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Abuse Reporting Format (arf) - 1 of 4
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the charter to be provided by Alexey Melnikov.  The Secretariat will send
a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org.
The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the IESG
Teleconference on January 21, 2010.

  o BiDirectional or Server-Initiated HTTP (hybi) - 2 of 4
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the charter to be provided by Lisa Dusseault.  The Secretariat will send
a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org.
The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG
Teleconference (January 7, 2010).

  o Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec) - 3 of 4
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for a 4-week IETF review pending
edits to the charter to be provided by Cullen Jennings.  The Secretariat
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
the IESG Teleconference on January 21, 2010.

  o Internationalized Resource Identifiers (iri) - 4 of 4
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
the IESG Teleconference on January 21, 2010.


4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN Indication (martini) - 1 of 1
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    NONE
4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

 6.1 Designated Expert for RFC 3688 [IANA #281029] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Lisa Dusseault to find a designated expert for RFC 3688
- IETF XML registry.

 6.2 Designated Expert for RFC 3611 [IANA #281907] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Robert Sparks to find a designated expert for RFC 3611
- RTCP XR Block Types & RTCP XR SDP Parameters.

 6.3 Feedback to the YAM WG about rfc1652bis-pre-evaluation (Alexey
 Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Cullen Jennings to propose updated text for the response
to the YAM working group in regards to rfc1652bis-pre-evaluation.

 6.4 Link Relations Request [IANA #285113] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Lisa Dusseault will review the Link Relations Request for
IANA ticket #285113.

 6.5 Authorship Statement (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.  Dan Romascanu will send a draft of
the IESG statement on authorship out to the working group chairs for feedback.

 6.6 IAOC Member Selection (Executive Session) (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.

7. Working Group News

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on documents that are under discussion by the IESG