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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 18, 2010 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Incoming AD for Routing Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo / Incoming AD for RAI Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Linden Labs) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Incoming AD for Transport Area
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Incoming AD for Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Incoming AD for Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 4, 2010 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the February 4, 2010 Teleconference were
approved as amended.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes
in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 4, 2010 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-ospf-af-alt-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-rohc-ikev2-extensions-hcoipsec-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-rohc-ipsec-extensions-hcoipsec-08.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-hammer-oauth-10.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-09.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-rohc-hcoipsec-13.txt (Informational)
 o draft-turner-clearancesponsor-attribute-03.txt (Informational)
 o draft-turner-deviceowner-attribute-03.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Jari Arkko to find a designated expert for RFC 5494.
 o Jari Arkko to find a reference for protocol value 41.

DELETED:
 NONE

IN PROGRESS:
 o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
 o Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one document updates
   another.
 o Lars Eggert to find a designated expert for RFC 5661.

NEW
 o Ralph Droms and Adrian Farrel to update the wiki to reflect
   circumstances in which implementation is desired before
   standardization.
 o Jari Arkko to ask Phil Roberts if he is willing to serve as the
   designated expert for RFC 5563.  If not, Jari will find an
   expert.
 o Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms to work with Michelle Cotton to find a
   new multicast expert.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
 o draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery-13
   Discovering the Local Location Information Server (LIS) (Proposed
   Standard) - 1 of 5
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel,
Alexey Melnikov and Robert Sparks.*

 o draft-ietf-geopriv-geo-uri-04
   A Uniform Resource Identifier for Geographic Locations ('geo' URI)
   (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 5
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Lisa Dusseault, Lars Eggert, Alexey
Melnikov, Tim Polk and Robert Sparks.*

 o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-dcsc-channel-ext-03
   Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Data Channel Switching Capable (DCSC) and
   Channel Set Label Extensions (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 5
   Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Magnus Westerlund.*

 o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-vendor-message-01
   DHCPv4 Vendor-specific Message (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 5
   Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley, Alexey
Melnikov, Dan Romascanu and Robert Sparks.*

 o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-vendor-message-01
   DHCPv6 Vendor-specific Message (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 5
   Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley, Cullen Jennings, Alexey
Melnikov and Robert Sparks.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
 o draft-ietf-avt-app-rtp-keepalive-07
   Application Mechanism for maintaining alive the Network Address
   Translator (NAT) mappings associated to RTP flows. (Proposed
   Standard) - 1 of 2
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk, Robert Sparks and Magnus Westerlund.*

 o draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-protocol-15
   Rbridges: Base Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2
   Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
 o draft-allbery-afs-srv-records-04
   DNS SRV Resource Records for AFS (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
   Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Robert Sparks.*

2.2.2 Returning Items
 NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
 o draft-ietf-tcpm-icmp-attacks-10
   ICMP attacks against TCP (Informational) - 1 of 4
   Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

 o draft-ietf-ecrit-location-hiding-req-02
   Location Hiding: Problem Statement and Requirements (Informational)
   - 2 of 4
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

 o draft-ietf-pce-p2mp-req-05
   PCC-PCE Communication Requirements for Point to Multipoint
   Multiprotocol Label Switching Traffic Engineering (MPLS-TE)
   (Informational) - 3 of 4
   Token: Ross Callon

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-framework-04
   MPLS-TP Network Management Framework (Informational) - 4 of 4
   Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
 NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items

 o draft-zorn-radius-pkmv1-10
   RADIUS Attributes for IEEE 802.16 Privacy Key Management Version 1
   (PKMv1) Protocol Support (Informational) - 1 of 1
   Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.*

3.2.2 Returning Items
 NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Items
 NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
 NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
 o Session Recording Protocol (srp) - 1 of 2
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review as "SIP Recording
(SIPREC)."  The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the
WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (March 4, 2010).

 o Constrained RESTful Environments (core) - 2 of 2
   Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (March 4, 2010).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
 o Keying and Authentication for Routing Protocols (karp) - 1 of 2
   Token: Ross Callon

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Ross Callon.  The Secretariat
will send a WG Action announcement.

 o Peer to Peer Streaming Protocol (ppsp) - 2 of 2
   Token: Lars Eggert

The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working group at
this time.  The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (March 4, 2010).

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
 o ADSL MIB (adslmib) - 1 of 1
   Token: Dan Romascanu

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the
WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (March 4, 2010).


4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
 o IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme) - 1 of 2
   Token: Pasi Eronen

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Pasi Eronen.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

 o Inter-Domain Routing (idr) - 2 of 2
   Token: Ross Callon

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Ross Callon.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue
6.1 Registration of media type application/iptv_rtsp (Alexey Melnikov,
    Robert Sparks)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG denied the registration
request.

6.2 Expert for RFC 5563 [IANA #299221] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action Item: Jari Arkko to ask Phil Roberts if he is willing to serve
as the designated expert for RFC 5563.  If not, Jari will find an
expert.

6.3 Expert for draft-nottingham-http-link-header [IANA #294442]
    (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Mark Nottingham
(mnot@mnot.net) and Eran Hammer-Lehav (eran@hueniverse.net) as the
designated experts for draft-nottingham-http-link-header, pending their
acceptance of the appointment.

6.4 Independent Submissions -- IESG Notes Review (Sandy Ginoza)

The management issue was discussed.

6.5 netlmm ipv4 doc re-review (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

6.6 77th Agenda (Wanda Lo)

The management issue was discussed.

6.7 Multicast Expert (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms to work with Michelle Cotton to
find a new multicast expert.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
on documents that are under discussion by the IESG