Minutes interim-2013-iesg-04 2013-02-21 16:30
minutes-interim-2013-iesg-04-201302211630-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 21, 2013 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Richard Barnes (BBN) / Scribe, incoming Real-time Applications and
  Infrastructure Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure
  Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Wesley Eddy (MTI Systems) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Susan Hares / Scribe
Joel Jaeggli (Zynga) / incoming Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area
Ted Lemon (Nominum) / incoming Internet Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Bernard Aboba (Microsoft) / IAB Chair
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / incoming IETF Chair, General Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 7, 2013 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes for the February 7, 2013 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 7, 2013 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-hanes-dispatch-fax-capability-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access-16  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ipfix-information-model-rfc5102bis-10  (Proposed
    Standard)
  o draft-ietf-avtcore-srtp-encrypted-header-ext-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-bliss-call-completion-19  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-deployment-08  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-trill-oam-req-05  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-sidr-usecases-06  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  NONE

NEW:
  o Stewart Bryant to find a designated expert for the rpki-rtr-error
    registry [IANA #652267].

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-07  - IETF stream
    MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 5
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Stewart Bryant. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-6man-nd-extension-headers-03  - IETF stream
    Security Implications of IPv6 Fragmentation with IPv6 Neighbor
    Discovery (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 5
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Stephen Farrell and Martin Stiemerling.*

  o draft-ietf-behave-nat64-discovery-heuristic-13  - IETF stream
    Discovery of the IPv6 Prefix Used for IPv6 Address Synthesis
    (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 5
    Token: Wesley Eddy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Stephen Farrell and Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-eman-rfc4133bis-06  - IETF stream
    Entity MIB (Version 4) (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 5
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Benoit Claise.

  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-08  - IETF stream
    RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Blocks for Summary
    Statistics Metrics Reporting (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 5
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Ralph Droms, Barry Leiba and Robert
Sparks.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-p2psip-base-25  - IETF stream
    REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD) Base Protocol (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions-12  - IETF stream
    Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) Protocol
    Extensions (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Benoit Claise. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  o draft-gp-obsolete-icmp-types-iana-01  - IETF stream
    Formally Deprecating Some ICMPv4 Message Types (Proposed Standard) -
    1 of 1
    Token: Ronald Bonica

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send
an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

The IESG approved moving RFC 1788 to Historic.  The Secretariat will
send a Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-paws-problem-stmt-usecases-rqmts-13  - IETF stream
    Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Database: Use Cases and
    Requirements (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Pete Resnick

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Stephen Farrell and Martin Stiemerling.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-security-framework-08  - IETF stream
    MPLS-TP Security Framework (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-dpa-etal-00  - IETF stream
    Deprecation of BGP Path Attributes DPA, ADVERTISER and RCID_PATH /
    CLUSTER_ID (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The IESG agreed to re-send the Last Call for this document as a Proposed Standard.

  o draft-ietf-simple-simple-09  - IETF stream
    SIMPLE made Simple: An Overview of the IETF Specifications for
    Instant Messaging and Presence using the Session Initiation Protocol
    (SIP) (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-ancp-pon-04  - IETF stream
    Applicability of Access Node Control Mechanism to PON based
    Broadband Networks (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-templin-intarea-seal-51  - IETF stream
    The Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL)
    (Experimental) - 1 of 4
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document will be returned to the author and moved into state "AD is watching."

  o draft-templin-ironbis-12  - IETF stream
    The Intradomain Routing Overlay Network (IRON) (Experimental) - 2 of
    4
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document will be returned to the author and moved into state "AD is watching."

  o draft-leiba-urnbis-ietf-namespace-02  - IETF stream
    Registration of Second-Level URN Namespaces Under "ietf"
    (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Pete Resnick

Barry Leiba formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by
Pete Resnick. The Secretariat will send an individual submission
Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

  o draft-shafranovich-mime-sql-05  - IETF stream
    The application/sql Media Type (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o JSON data formats for vCard and iCalendar (jcardcal) - 1 of 2
  Token: Pete Resnick

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (February 28, 2013).

  o Hypertext Transmission Protocol Authentication (httpauth) - 2 of 2
  Token: Sean Turner

The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter for external
review at this time. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (February 28, 2013).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Web PKI OPS (wpkops) - 1 of 1
  Token: Ron Bonica

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Common Authentication Technology Next Generation (kitten) - 1 of 1
  Token: Stephen Farrell

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues

   6.1 Request a designated expert for the rpki-rtr-error Registry
       (IANA/Pearl Liang)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Stewart Bryant to find a designated expert for the rpki-
rtr-error registry [IANA #652267].

   6.2 Acceptance of media-type registration from standards
       organization: Connected Media Experience, LLC (IANA/Amanda Baber)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG asks IANA to process the
provisional registration of these media-types, but as it is a
provisional registration, there is no need to add this organization to
the 'Standards-related organizations that have registered Media Types in
the Standards Tree' at this time.

   6.3 Two additional IE doctors for the IPFIX Information Elements
       registry (Benoit Claise)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved adding Paul
Aitken (paitken@cisco.com) and Brian Trammell (trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch)
as additional experts for the IPFIX Information Elements registry,
joining Juergen Quittek and Nevil Brownlee.

   6.4 Alternate Draft Write-ups (IESG Secretary)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG does not object to use of
the alternate draft write-up template as an experiment for the next six
months.  The IESG will evaluate the results of the experiment at a
future IESG teleconference in September 2013.

   6.5 Take the actions specified in draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-dpa-etal,
       in lieu of publishing it as an RFC. (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG has decided that the
best mechanism in this case is to publish the RFC.

   6.6 Ensure that directorate and review-team reviews are posted to
       ietf@ietf.org, as last-call comments. (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.