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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 15, 2015 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area 
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Spencer Dawkins / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Martin Stiemerling (Darmstadt University of Applied Sciences) / 
 Transport Area
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
--------------------------------- 

Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe
Brian Trammell (ETH Zurich) / IAB Liaison


GUEST
--------------------------------- 
Fred Baker, document shepherd for draft-ietf-v6ops-pmtud-ecmp-problem


OBSERVERS
--------------------------------- 
Marc Blanchet
Ben Kaduk


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 1, 2015 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 1, 2015 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 1, 2015 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-forces-lfb-subsidiary-management-02  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pcp-anycast-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-37  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-active-leasequery-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec-11  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  o draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology-07  (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-teas-fast-lsps-requirements-02  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Brian Haberman to identify a designated expert for RFC 7077.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Barry Leiba to draft a proposal for a github license.
  o Jari Arkko to revist the discussion of a simplified notewell with 
    the IESG.

NEW:
  NONE


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-10  - IETF stream
    PPSP Tracker Protocol-Base Protocol (PPSP-TP/1.0) (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 11
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell, Stephen Farrell, Barry Leiba, and 
Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-ls-distribution-12  - IETF stream
    North-Bound Distribution of Link-State and TE Information using BGP
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 11
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-trill-cmt-10  - IETF stream
    Coordinated Multicast Trees (CMT) for TRILL (Proposed Standard) - 3 
    of 11
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alia Atlas confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

  o draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication-03  - IETF stream
    Simulating "Partial Mesh of MP2MP P-Tunnels" with Ingress
    Replication (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 11
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-grow-bmp-15  - IETF stream
    BGP Monitoring Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 11
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Stephen Farrell, and Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-self-ping-05  - IETF stream
    LSP Self-Ping (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 11
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-siit-eam-02  - IETF stream
    Explicit Address Mappings for Stateless IP/ICMP Translation
    (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 11
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Joel Jaeggli confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ippm-owamp-registry-03  - IETF stream
    Registries for the One-Way Active Measurement Protocol - OWAMP
    (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 11
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03  - IETF stream
    Clarifications to RFC 5884 (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 11
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ospf-node-admin-tag-07  - IETF stream
    Advertising per-node administrative tags in OSPF (Proposed Standard)
    - 10 of 11
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alvaro Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis-06  - IETF stream
    Extensions to OSPF for Advertising Optional Router Capabilities
    (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 11
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alia Atlas confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.


2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items   
  o draft-kivinen-ipsecme-oob-pubkey-13  - IETF stream
    More Raw Public Keys for IKEv2 (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty


The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be 
prepared by Kathleen Moriarty. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items    
  o draft-ietf-v6ops-pmtud-ecmp-problem-04  - IETF stream
    Close encounters of the ICMP type 2 kind (near misses with ICMPv6
    PTB) (Informational) - 1 of 5
    Token: Benoit Claise

Joel Jaeggli formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Document Action Announcement once Benoit 
Claise confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-rtorestart-08  - IETF stream
    TCP and SCTP RTO Restart (Experimental) - 2 of 5
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Martin Stiemerling. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-siit-dc-2xlat-02  - IETF stream
    SIIT-DC: Dual Translation Mode (Informational) - 3 of 5
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Joel Jaeggli. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-siit-dc-03  - IETF stream
    SIIT-DC: Stateless IP/ICMP Translation for IPv6 Data Centre
    Environments (Informational) - 4 of 5
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Joel Jaeggli. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-cdni-media-type-06  - IETF stream
    CDNI Media Type Registration (Informational) - 5 of 5
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  o draft-blanchet-ccsds-urn-00  - IETF stream
    A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for the Consultative
    Committee for Space Data Systems (CCSDS) (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-curves-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-curves
      draft-irtf-cfrg-curves-11
      Elliptic Curves for Security (IRTF: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Stephen Farrell.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Captive Portal Interaction (capport) - 1 of 1
    Area: ART (Barry Leiba)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to 
be provided by Barry Leiba.  The Secretariat will send a WG Review 
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the first IESG 
Teleconference after IETF 94.

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Network Configuration (netconf) - 1 of 2
    Area: OPS (Benoit Claise)

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o TURN Revised and Modernized (tram) - 2 of 2
    Area: TSV (Spencer Dawkins)

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending 
edits to be provided by Spencer Dawkins.  The Secretariat will send a WG 
Action: RECHARTER announcement.

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Management Item: Approval of Designated Experts for Mobile IPv6 
       Parameters registries (Brian Haberman)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Sri Gundavelli 
<sgundave@cisco.com> and Marco Liebsch <Marco.Liebsch@neclab.eu> as the 
Designated Experts for the Update Notification Reasons Registry and the  
Update Notification Acknowledgement Status Registry.

   6.2 Combined plenary plan (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.3 RFC 7360 Issue (Benoit Claise)

The management issue was discussed.


7. Working Group news


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.