Minutes interim-2016-iesg-13 2016-06-16 14:00
minutes-interim-2016-iesg-13-201606161400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 16, 2016 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Spencer Dawkins / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Stephanie McCammon (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Robert Sparks (Oracle) / IAB Liaison
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

GUEST
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Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IRTF Chair (present for item 6.4 only)

REGRETS 
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Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

OBSERVERS
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Donald Eastlake
Matt
Greg Wood


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the June 2, 2016 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the June 2, 2016 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the June 2, 2016 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-cdni-logging-27  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  o draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines-13  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Ben Campbell and Stephen Farrell to write an email about relaxing 
    the Last Call requirements for normative downrefs.
  o Jari Arkko to draft IESG Statement on treatment of IPR declarations.

NEW:
  o Benoit Claise, Alvaro Retana, and Suresh Krishnan to propose charter 
    development recommendations.
  o Spencer Dawkins and Jari Arkko to write a wiki page that describes 
    the different teams to contact regarding inappropriate behavior on 
    ietf@ietf.


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-06  - IETF stream
    RSVP-TE Extensions for Collecting SRLG Information (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 4
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-notification-07  - IETF stream
    RTP/RTCP extension for RTP Splicing Notification (Proposed Standard)
    - 2 of 4
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alia Atlas and Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-11  - IETF stream
    Internet Exchange BGP Route Server (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 4
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-msid-14  - IETF stream
    WebRTC MediaStream Identification in the Session Description
    Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 4
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

2.1.2 Returning items  
  o draft-ietf-sidr-rfc6485bis-05  - IETF stream
    The Profile for Algorithms and Key Sizes for use in the Resource
    Public Key Infrastructure (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc-11  - IETF stream
    Use of BGP for routing in large-scale data centers (Informational) - 
    1 of 3
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-dmarc-interoperability-16  - IETF stream
    Interoperability Issues Between DMARC and Indirect Email Flows
    (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-04  - IETF stream
    Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE)
    Extension for Additional Signal Types in G.709 OTN (Informational) - 
    3 of 3
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-davie-stt-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-davie-stt
      draft-davie-stt-08
      A Stateless Transport Tunneling Protocol for Network
    Virtualization (STT) (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document. 
The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
pending edits to to be provided by Spencer Dawkins.

  o conflict-review-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-01
    IETF conflict review for draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor
      draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-14
      DNSSEC Trust Anchor Publication for the Root Zone (ISE:
    Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The conflict review remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Terry Manderson.*

3.4.2 Returning items
  o conflict-review-tcs-coap-no-response-option-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-tcs-coap-no-response-option
      draft-tcs-coap-no-response-option-17
      CoAP option for no server-response (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alexey Melnikov


The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
pending a final check to be completed by Alexey Melnikov.

3.4.3 For action
  o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-evaluation-methodology-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-evaluation-methodology
      draft-irtf-icnrg-evaluation-methodology-05
      Information-centric Networking: Evaluation and Security
    Considerations (IRTF: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Spencer Dawkins for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Meeting Venue (mtgvenue) - 1 of 3
    Area: GEN (Jari Arkko)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (June 30, 2016).

  o SIP Best-practice Recommendations Against Network Dangers to privacY 
    (sipbrandy) - 2 of 3
    Area: ART (Ben Campbell)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to 
be provided by Ben Campbell. The Secretariat will send a WG Review 
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG 
Teleconference (June 30, 2016).

  o Some PKIX and SMIME (spasm) - 3 of 3
    Area: SEC (Stephen Farrell)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (June 30, 2016).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  o Babel routing protocol (babel) - 1 of 1
    Area: RTG (Alia Atlas)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Mobile Ad-hoc Networks (manet) - 1 of 1
    Area: RTG (Alvaro Retana)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Stephen Farrell.*  

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Finish reviewing IESG qualification for NomCom (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the text for the 
IESG qualifications for NomCom.

   6.2 [IANA #912091] Designated expert for RFC7139, RFC7892 (Sabrina 
       Tanamal / IANA and Deborah Brungard)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Daniele Ceccarelli
<daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com> and Fatai Zhang 
<zhangfatai@huawei.com> as the designated experts for the Generalized 
Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Parameters registry.

   6.3 [IANA #912320] media type registrations in draft-seantek-windows-
       image (Amanda Baber/IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the media type 
registrations in draft-seantek-windows-image.

   6.4 IETF 96 Conflict Resolution (Stephanie McCammon)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.5 Executive Session: Respectful Discussions on ietf@ietf (Jari 
       Arkko)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.

7. Working Group news

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.