Minutes interim-2016-iesg-17 2016-08-18 14:00
minutes-interim-2016-iesg-17-201608181400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 18, 2016 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins / Transport Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 

REGRETS 
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Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe
Robert Sparks (Oracle) / IAB Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

OBSERVERS
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Paul Giralt
Paul Kyzivat
Gonzalo Salgueiro
Kelly Willyams
Greg Wood

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 4, 2016 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 4, 2016 Teleconference were 
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 4, 2016 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-20  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-pd-dispatch-msrp-websocket-15  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-trill-channel-tunnel-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-clue-data-model-schema-17  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-hip-rfc5205-bis-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-hip-rfc5204-bis-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-idr-route-oscillation-stop-04  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-09  (Proposed Standard)
   
1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Benoit Claise, Alvaro Retana, and Suresh Krishnan to propose charter 
    development recommendations.

  o Jari Arkko and the IESG to put together feedback questions regarding 
    the 10am meeting start, length of the meeting time, and potential 
    experiments with meeting formats (unconference, lounges, 1+lounge 
    time, etc.)

  o Suresh Krishnan to find more scribes.

NEW:
  o Ben Campbell to find a designated expert for SDP Parameters [IANA 
    #922491].

  o Jari Arkko to produce new text to go on the IPR web page.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-26  - IETF stream
    End-to-End Session Identification in IP-Based Multimedia
    Communication Networks (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 8
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper and Suresh Krishnan.*

  o draft-ietf-bess-ir-05  - IETF stream
    Ingress Replication Tunnels in Multicast VPN (Proposed Standard) - 2 
    of 8
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alvaro Retana. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-isis-rfc4971bis-03  - IETF stream
    IS-IS Extensions for Advertising Router Info (Proposed Standard) - 3 
    of 8
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-isis-remaining-lifetime-04  - IETF stream
    IS-IS Minimum Remaining Lifetime (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 8
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-sipcore-dns-dual-stack-07  - IETF stream
    Locating Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Servers in a Dual-Stack
    IP Network (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan.*

  o draft-ietf-radext-ip-port-radius-ext-11  - IETF stream
    RADIUS Extensions for IP Port Configuration and Reporting (Proposed
    Standard) - 6 of 8
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

  o draft-ietf-radext-datatypes-06  - IETF stream
    Data Types in the Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service
    Protocol (RADIUS) (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan.*

  o draft-ietf-jose-cfrg-curves-06  - IETF stream
    CFRG ECDH and signatures in JOSE  (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 8
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an 
IANA Note prepared by Kathleen Moriarty.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items  
  o draft-ietf-manet-smf-sec-threats-05  - IETF stream
    Security Threats for Simplified Multicast Forwarding (SMF)
    (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-i2rs-protocol-security-requirements-07  - IETF stream
    I2RS Security Related Requirements (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (September 1, 2016) 
by Kathleen Moriarty.

  o draft-ietf-kitten-aes-cts-hmac-sha2-10  - IETF stream
    AES Encryption with HMAC-SHA2 for Kerberos 5 (Informational) - 3 of 
    3
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-behringer-ncrg-complexity-framework-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-behringer-ncrg-complexity-framework
      draft-behringer-ncrg-complexity-framework-02
      A Framework for Defining Network Complexity (ISE: Informational) - 
      1 of 1
    Token: Stephen Farrell

Alvaro Retana formally recused himself from the discussion. The IESG has 
no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat 
will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Independent 
Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response prepared by 
Stephen Farrell.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action
  o conflict-review-sarikaya-6man-sadr-overview-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-sarikaya-6man-sadr-overview
      draft-sarikaya-6man-sadr-overview-11
      Source Address Dependent Routing and Source Address Selection for
    IPv6 Hosts: Problem Space Overview (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Suresh Krishnan for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 [IANA #922491] Designated expert for SDP Parameters (RFCs 5576, 
       4796, 5583, 7195, 4567, 5432, 7273) (Sabrina Tanamal / IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  

Action item: Ben Campbell to find a designated expert for SDP Parameters 
[IANA #922491].

   6.2 Proposed IESG Statement on IPR Declarations (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to add new text to 
the IPR web page.

Action item: Jari Arkko to produce new text to go on the IPR web page.

   6.3 [IANA #919455] Management Item: Acceptance of media-type 
       registration from standards organization Advanced Television 
       Systems Committee (ATSC) (Amanda Baber / IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 

   6.4 Management Item: Early allocation extension for draft-ietf-teas-
       rsvp-te-srlg-collect (Michelle Cotton  / IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved an additional 
extension for the following 3 early allocations from draft-ietf-teas-
rsvp-tel-srlg-collect:

 - Registry: Sub-object type ‒ 21 ROUTE_RECORD ‒ Type 1 Route Record
   URL: http://www.iana.org/assignments/rsvp-parameters
   Assignment: 34  SRLG sub-object (TEMPORARY - registered 2014-09-11,
   extension registered 2015-08-27, expires 2016-09-11)
   [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect]

 - Registry: Sub-Codes ‒ 2 Policy Control Failure
   URL: http://www.iana.org/assignments/rsvp-parameters
   Assignment: 21  SRLG Recording Rejected (TEMPORARY - registered
    2014-09-11,
   extension registered 2015-08-27, expires 2016-09-11)
   [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect]

 - Registry: Attribute Flags
   URL: http://www.iana.org/assignments/rsvp-te-parameters
   Assignment: 12  SRLG collection Flag (TEMPORARY - registered 
    2014-09-11,
   extension registered 2015-08-27, expires 2016-09-11)
   [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect]

7. Working Group news



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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.