Minutes interim-2017-iesg-23 2017-10-26 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 26, 2017 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Ignas Bagdonas / Scribe
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (Dell EMC) / Security Area
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe
Suzanne Woolf / IAB Liaison

OBSERVERS
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Mahesh Jethanandani
Greg Wood


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 12, 2017 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 12, 2017 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The minutes of the IETF 100 BOF Coordination call were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 12, 2017 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-12  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-13  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-webpush-vapid-04  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host-13  (Best Current 
    Practice)
  o draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pce-rfc6006bis-04  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-turner-est-extensions-11  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Action
  o draft-ietf-nvo3-mcast-framework-11  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Deborah Brungard to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-pals-
    status-reduction [IANA #983681].

IN PROGRESS:
  o Terry Manderson to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-anima-grasp 
    [IANA #983682].
  o Alexey Melnikov to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-slim-
    multilangcontent [IANA #983757].

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-14  - IETF stream
    Generic YANG Data Model for the Management of Operations,
    Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Protocols that use
    Connectionless Communications (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 6
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alia Atlas.*

  o draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods-11  - IETF stream
    Retrieval Methods YANG Data Model for Connectionless Operations,
    Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols (Proposed Standard) - 
    2 of 6
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alia Atlas.*

  o draft-ietf-mile-rolie-12  - IETF stream
    Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 6
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell, Alexey Melnikov, and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-06  - IETF stream
    Happy Eyeballs Version 2: Better Connectivity Using Concurrency
    (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 6
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Warren Kumari. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-uta-email-deep-09  - IETF stream
    Cleartext Considered Obsolete: Use of TLS for Email Submission and
    Access (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 6
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alexey Melnikov confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-netconf-rfc6536bis-07  - IETF stream
    Network Configuration Access Control Module (Internet Standard) - 6 
    of 6
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Benoit Claise confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items    
  o draft-wu-l3sm-rfc8049bis-07  - IETF stream
    YANG Data Model for L3VPN Service Delivery (Proposed Standard) - 1 
    of 1
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan and Alvaro Retana.*

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items    
  o draft-ietf-tcpinc-tcpeno-12  - IETF stream
    TCP-ENO: Encryption Negotiation Option (Experimental) - 1 of 5
    Token: Mirja Kuehlewind

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (November 30, 2017) 
by Amy Vezza on behalf of Eric Rescorla.

  o draft-ietf-tcpinc-tcpcrypt-08  - IETF stream
    Cryptographic protection of TCP Streams (tcpcrypt) (Experimental) - 
    2 of 5
    Token: Mirja Kuehlewind

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (November 30, 2017) 
by Amy Vezza on behalf of Eric Rescorla.

  o draft-ietf-rmcat-scream-cc-12  - IETF stream
    Self-Clocked Rate Adaptation for Multimedia (Experimental) - 3 of 5
    Token: Mirja Kuehlewind

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-i2nsf-framework-08  - IETF stream
    Framework for Interface to Network Security Functions
    (Informational) - 4 of 5
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mirja Kuehlewind.*

  o draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation-11  - IETF stream
    Encapsulation for Bit Index Explicit Replication in MPLS and
    non-MPLS Networks (Experimental) - 5 of 5
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Kathleen Moriarty.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Software Updates for Internet of Things (suit)
    Area: SEC (Kathleen Moriarty)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Alexey Melnikov.*  

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
6.1 [IANA #983681] Designated expert for RFC-ietf-pals-status-
    reduction (Deborah Brungard)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Stewart Bryant 
<stewart.bryant@gmail.com> and Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> as the 
designated experts for RFC-ietf-pals-status-reduction.

6.2 IETF 100 Agenda (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.