[17:55:12] stpeter joins the room [17:58:50] a few notes from the Bar BoF in progress... [17:59:08] among other things, only one allowed [17:59:23] need to carefully examine the relation of Atom to the web architecture [18:01:49] perhaps we need an informational best practices document about when to use Atom, how to write extensions, etc. [18:02:40] some problems in mapping existing applications to the use of Atom [18:04:08] Mark: there are some interoperability problems [18:04:23] the basic use cases are typically fine, but not the niceties [18:04:31] there might be a need for rfc4287bis [18:06:27] Julian: there are interop problems with AtomPub, too, not just Atom syntax [18:07:04] Julian: problems with must-ignore [18:08:34] Julian points to http://incubator.apache.org/chemistry/ [18:10:34] Peter: do we need to just hold an interop meeting and out of that will emerge an issues list? [18:10:48] Julian notes the desire for hierarchy in AtomPub [18:13:33] Lisa: I like the idea of an interop meeting as the first step [18:14:53] (BTW the agenda is at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/Atom such as it is... :) [18:15:45] some pointers also to http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=cmis [18:24:21] proposal to submit a hierarchy specification as an experimental I-D [18:27:37] Lisa: would anyone want to work on an Atom semantic for mailing lists and forums [18:38:48] seeming consensus not to form a WG at this point [18:56:41] stpeter leaves the room: Disconnected: connection closed [19:39:22] stpeter joins the room [19:54:38] stpeter leaves the room