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Tuesday, July 19, 2016< ^ >
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[07:44:31] Meetecho joins the room
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[08:01:51] <Lucas Jenß> Hi everyone. I will be your Jabber scribe :)
[08:02:22] <Lucas Jenß> If there is anything you'd like taken to the mic, please prefix it with "mic:"
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[08:04:30] <Lucas Jenß> The minutes are being taken at http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-96-slim
[08:04:47] <Barry Leiba> The chairs have Tasers.
[08:04:50] <Paul Kyzivat> I'm getting no media. Is any being sent yet?
[08:05:03] <Barry Leiba> It should be.  Hm.
[08:05:15] <Paul Kyzivat> Is it only me?
[08:05:18] <Barry Leiba> Meetecho: can you check things here?
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[08:05:43] <Barry Leiba> Are any others remote besides Paul?
[08:05:48] <Meetecho> I'm in SLIM as Lorenzo Miniero and I get everything
[08:05:54] <Meetecho> all feeds seem fine
[08:06:01] <Barry Leiba> OK, maybe it's a local problem for Paul.
[08:06:07] <Meetecho> Paul, did you join as participant or observer?
[08:06:14] <Paul Kyzivat> hmm. participant
[08:06:20] <Meetecho> if it's the former, you may have missed the request to access your devices
[08:06:32] <Meetecho> until you accept permissions, media are not setup
[08:06:49] <Paul Kyzivat> I got it. I accepted the mic, said not now for camera
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[08:07:00] <Meetecho> so working now?
[08:07:26] <Paul Kyzivat> no, nothing. I'm using FF. Maybe I should try Chrome.
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[08:08:10] <Sean Leonard> Try Chrome, it has been more reliable for me
[08:08:32] <Meetecho> Firefox should work just as well, you may try to just rejoin and see if that fixes it
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[08:10:37] <John Klensin> Paul, I'm using FF (on Win7 Pro) and, having gone through the registration stuff accepted the device permissions (made those mistakes yesterday), things are working fine now.  And I am definitely not in Berlin :-(
[08:10:49] <Paul Kyzivat> now working with Chrome
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[08:17:10] <Paul Kyzivat> hummmmm
[08:17:35] <Lucas Jenß> is that for the "no"?
[08:17:46] <Lucas Jenß> i.e. is that a hum for "not move to WGLC?"
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[08:38:12] <RjS> meetecho folks - is there a way to make gunnar a little less loud in the room here?
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[08:38:39] <Meetecho> RjS: we'll look into that
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[08:39:03] <Meetecho> sending someone to the room right now
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[08:39:09] <RjS> thanks!
[08:39:27] <Lucas Jenß> what's the matter? I haven't been seeing any messages for a while, had I dropped out?
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[08:39:39] <RjS> gunnar is presenting remotely
[08:39:45] <RjS> and is quite loud in the speakers in the room
[08:39:53] <RjS> someone's at the board now
[08:40:04] <Ned Freed> I just got disconnected due to some sort of network glitch, FWIW.
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[08:43:40] <Sean Leonard> I got disconnected as well. back now
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[08:54:55] <resnick> Can the chairs call rough consensus on this point?
[08:55:15] <Lucas Jenß> is that supposed to go to the mic?
[08:55:43] <resnick> I’m in the room. I was hoping one of the chairs was in the chat room.
[08:55:50] <Lucas Jenß> okay nvm
[08:56:22] <Barry Leiba> I don't see either chair in the jabber room roster.
[08:56:34] <Barry Leiba> Oh, no, wait… Natasha's here.
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[09:02:04] <John Klensin> Actually, I've heard people negotiate discussions in "generic scandinavian and meetings, especially some under the auspices of teh Nordic Council of Ministers, held in that "language" .  Ir doesn't change thw main point at all, but we should be careful about statements in this area that might influence protocol design.
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[09:03:59] <Lucas Jenß> John Klensin: Assuming not to be taken to the mic, since its not prefixed w/ "mic:"
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[09:06:59] <Lucas Jenß> Meetecho: who do I talk to if I have problems w/ the jabber server? I don't seem to be receiving all messages in the group chat, reconnecting etc hasn't helped
[09:07:47] <Meetecho> Lucas Jenß: is this just via Meetecho or with other Jabber clients as well?
[09:09:11] <Lucas Jenß> Meetecho: Hmm, meetecho keeps timing out. Thinking about it, its probably a local connectivity issue. Perhaps with the ietf eduroam .. I'll try switchting wifi
[09:09:31] <John Klensin> @Lucas: no, not intended for the Mic.  Not important enough to waste WG time unless the issue shows up in a document, at which point you'd hear from me at LC :-(
[09:09:37] <Meetecho> if Meetecho times out, it's likely you're not getting incoming messages either for the same reason
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[09:09:59] <Meetecho> timeouts are triggered by lack of triggers from your end (which include keepalives)
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[09:10:32] <Lucas Jenß> Meetecho: thx, switched wifi. lets see if it works now
[09:10:45] <Meetecho> (y)
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