Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-06

Subir <subirdas21@gmail.com> Thu, 26 March 2015 19:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-06
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Agreed

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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Robert Cragie <robert.cragie@gridmerge.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't see any harm in the last sentence to clarify there is no restriction that the keys be different (which could be inferred from calling them K1 and K2).
> 
> Robert
> 
>> On 26 March 2015 at 18:53, Rene Struik <rstruik.ext@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Kris:
>> 
>> The last sentence "Depending on security policy, these keys could be the same (i.e., K1=K2)" does exactly what you suggest in your email.
>> 
>> This sentence is included to cover potential deployments that use a network-wide key for all frame types (which is a security policy instantiation [which may be allowed or not]).
>> Rene
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/26/2015 2:42 PM, Kris Pister wrote:
>>> I agree.  Once you have the mechanism to have two keys, higher level policy can
>>> specify what K1 and K2 are.  Rene - is there a reason to have that last line in there?
>>> 
>>> ksjp
>>> 
>>>> On 3/26/2015 11:39 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
>>>>> NEW:
>>>>> The present document assumes the existence of two cryptographic keys,
>>>>> which can be pre-configured. One of the keys (K1) is used to
>>>>> authenticate EBs. As defined in Section 4, EBs MUST be authenticated,
>>>>> with no payload encryption. This facilitates logical segregation of
>>>>> distinct networks. A second key (K2) is used to authenticate DATA,
>>>>> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, MAC COMMAND frame types and
>>>>> respective header IEs, with payload encryption.
>>>>> Depending on security policy, these keys could be the same (i.e., K1=K2).
>>>> I also believe it is important that the minimal document specify the use of
>>>> two keys.  This will put a clear requirement on protocol stacks that they
>>>> support more than one key, and that they figure out how to do this kind of
>>>> thing in their datapath processing.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that we might later on write a document later on that defines K1==K2,
>>>> but I don't think that it is useful to include the last sentence.  I don't
>>>> know what the "depending" is, and it may confuse implementers into thinking
>>>> they can define the situation.
>>>> 
>>>> Leaving out the last sentence, I am happy with the text.
>>>> 
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