Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-06
Subir <subirdas21@gmail.com> Thu, 26 March 2015 19:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-06
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Agreed Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Robert Cragie <robert.cragie@gridmerge.com> wrote: > > I don't see any harm in the last sentence to clarify there is no restriction that the keys be different (which could be inferred from calling them K1 and K2). > > Robert > >> On 26 March 2015 at 18:53, Rene Struik <rstruik.ext@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Kris: >> >> The last sentence "Depending on security policy, these keys could be the same (i.e., K1=K2)" does exactly what you suggest in your email. >> >> This sentence is included to cover potential deployments that use a network-wide key for all frame types (which is a security policy instantiation [which may be allowed or not]). >> Rene >> >> >>> On 3/26/2015 2:42 PM, Kris Pister wrote: >>> I agree. Once you have the mechanism to have two keys, higher level policy can >>> specify what K1 and K2 are. Rene - is there a reason to have that last line in there? >>> >>> ksjp >>> >>>> On 3/26/2015 11:39 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: >>>>> NEW: >>>>> The present document assumes the existence of two cryptographic keys, >>>>> which can be pre-configured. One of the keys (K1) is used to >>>>> authenticate EBs. As defined in Section 4, EBs MUST be authenticated, >>>>> with no payload encryption. This facilitates logical segregation of >>>>> distinct networks. A second key (K2) is used to authenticate DATA, >>>>> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, MAC COMMAND frame types and >>>>> respective header IEs, with payload encryption. >>>>> Depending on security policy, these keys could be the same (i.e., K1=K2). >>>> I also believe it is important that the minimal document specify the use of >>>> two keys. This will put a clear requirement on protocol stacks that they >>>> support more than one key, and that they figure out how to do this kind of >>>> thing in their datapath processing. >>>> >>>> I agree that we might later on write a document later on that defines K1==K2, >>>> but I don't think that it is useful to include the last sentence. I don't >>>> know what the "depending" is, and it may confuse implementers into thinking >>>> they can define the situation. >>>> >>>> Leaving out the last sentence, I am happy with the text. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 6tisch mailing list >>>> 6tisch@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 6tisch mailing list >>> 6tisch@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch >> >> >> -- >> email: rstruik.ext@gmail.com | Skype: rstruik >> cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 6tisch mailing list >> 6tisch@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch > > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch mailing list > 6tisch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch
- [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-06 Rene Struik
- [6tisch] (correction) Re: comment on draft-ietf-6… Rene Struik
- Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal… Michael Richardson
- Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal… Kris Pister
- Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal… Rene Struik
- Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal… Robert Cragie
- Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal… Turner, Randy
- Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal… Subir
- Re: [6tisch] (correction) Re: comment on draft-ie… Xavier Vilajosana
- Re: [6tisch] (correction) Re: comment on draft-ie… Turner, Randy
- Re: [6tisch] comment on draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal… Michael Richardson
- Re: [6tisch] (correction) Re: comment on draft-ie… Thomas Watteyne