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[ANCP] RE: Layer 2 Parameters in the Protocol document




Hello Sanjay,

        Thank you for your email.

        However, I understand from you, that there is an underlying assumption that there is only a single Vlan per subscriber.
This is too limiting, it must be possible to allow several VLANs per subscriber.

        In this case for a single subscriber there would be:

        1. Several Access-Loop-Circuit-IDs (one per local Vlan)
        2. Only one Access-Loop-Remote-Id (one per subscriber)
        3. Several Access-Aggregation-Circuit-Id-Binary (one per aggregation Vlan)
                4. Several Access-Aggregation-Circuit-Id-ASCII (one per aggregation Vlan)
        5. One set of DSL Line Attributes (one per local loop) - except for the Access Loop Encapsulation  (one per Vlan).

        As you can see, some of the information needs to be provided:
        a.  Per local loop / subscriber.
        b.  Per Vlan.

        The current message format, as I understand it, does not allow for this. It would require sending a separate message per Vlan
but this will mean some information must be repeated unnecessarily and increase the number of messages that need to be sent. It should
be possible to:
        A. Separate the per subscriber information from the Per Vlan information.
        B. Bundle the per Vlan information into blocks so that for each Vlan there is an additional block of information relating to that Vlan.

       

Best Regards,
Menachem Dodge
ECI Telecom Ltd.
Broadband Access Division

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"Sanjay Wadhwa" <swadhwa at juniper.net>

07/08/2006 17:41

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RE: Layer 2 Parameters in the Protocol document





Hi Menachem
   The ACI sent in L2C has the same format as what is sent by the DSLAM in DHCP opt 82 or PPPoE-IA tag i.e. VLAN tag is part of the ACI. For each VLAN on a local-loop this translates to a unique ACI.
Access-loop-remote-id is an operator configured value for a given subscriber on the local-loop. The exact DSLAM behaviour is outside the scope of the draft. However, I would assume if there are multiple VLANs to the customer premise (one per subscriber), then  the relay-agent should insert a different access-remote-id per subscriber. It is an optional TLV.. However, when present it will be unique to the subscriber.
Access-Aggregation-IDs are optional TLVs. These can be used to define DSLAM uplink attributes if needed.
 
-Sanjay
 



       Regarding the document: "draft-wadhwa-gsmp-l2control-configuration" and following the questions I raised at the meeting in Montreal,

I would like to request an explanation of how to handle:


       1.  Multiple Vlans in a single encapsulation.

       2.  Multiple Vlans and Multiple encapsulations.




       1. Multiple Vlans in a single encapsulation.


                a. Should an Access-Loop-Circuit-Id be defined for each Vlan which means that this is a many-to-one relationship?

                b. Should there be more than one Access-Loop-Remote-Id's or is one sufficient? If more are needed, how are they associated with an

                    Access-Loop-Circuit-Id?

                c. Should there be an Access-Aggregation-Circuit-Id-Binary and Access-Aggregation-Circuit-Id-ASCII for each
Access-Loop-Circuit-Id defined?

                        d. I assume there are only one set of "DSL Line Attributes" defined which are common to the physical line.


              2. Multiple Vlans and Multiple encapsulations.
               a.  If the Vlan's are related to different "Access Loop Encapsulations" how is this association between Vlan and encapsulation shown?

       


Best Regards,

Menachem

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