Re: [ANCP] Bulk Transaction Message

["Wojciech Dec (wdec)" <wdec at cisco.com>]

Title: Bulk Transaction Message

Sanjay,

 

can you please present to the WG and myself how bulk transaction capability is useful in any way in terms of scaling for example? And by the way, please treat this discussion is orthogonal to any other.

 

Cheers,

Woj.

 

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From: Sanjay Wadhwa [mailto:swadhwa at juniper.net]
Sent: 06 May 2008 19:08
To: Wojciech Dec (wdec); Peter Arberg; ancp at ietf.org
Subject: RE: [ANCP] Bulk Transaction Message

Woj

  It is a bad idea to remove bulk-transaction capability from the draft. On one hand you are trying to add "marginally useful" extensions (with TLVs), and on the other hand you are arguing for removing useful abstractions which can help with scaling. If bulk-transaction capability needs to be augmented or modified, then we should consider augmenting it, rather than removing it from the draft.

 

Cheers

-Sanjay

-----Original Message-----
From: ancp-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ancp-bounces at ietf.org]On Behalf Of Wojciech Dec (wdec)
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:42 PM
To: Peter Arberg; ancp at ietf.org
Subject: Re: [ANCP] Bulk Transaction Message

Hi Folks,

 

given that no discernable use of Bulk messaging has been identified, nor there being a good reason for it given the fact that ANCP is bound to the TCP transport (or equivalent), I would like to propose to remove all of the text relating to this capability and associated message from the protocol spec draft.

 

Regards,

Woj.

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From: ancp-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ancp-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Dec (wdec)
Sent: 20 April 2008 15:18
To: Peter Arberg; ancp at ietf.org
Subject: Re: [ANCP] Bulk Transaction Message

Should also have added: Given that currently the bulk message does not appear to have had any practical adoption, having the DTeam adopt it/modify it, or possibly have it removed from the spec all together are all valid options.

 

-Woj.

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From: ancp-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ancp-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Dec (wdec)
Sent: 20 April 2008 14:39
To: Peter Arberg; ancp at ietf.org
Subject: Re: [ANCP] Bulk Transaction Message

It's all simple:

- the Design Team is looking at the possibility of using this message

- the message in its current form does not appear to be terribly useful, and could be removed from the spec.

 

-Woj.

 

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From: ancp-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ancp-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Arberg
Sent: 19 April 2008 03:07
To: Wojciech Dec (wdec); ancp at ietf.org
Subject: Re: [ANCP] Bulk Transaction Message

Hi Woj,

 

can you give a little background to why you are looking for vendor

implementation support for this specific capability & message ?

 

thanks,

Peter

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From: ancp-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ancp-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Dec (wdec)
Sent: 18. april 2008 08:04
To: ancp at ietf.org
Subject: [ANCP] Bulk Transaction Message

Hi Folks,

Could you please let me/us know if you currently have an implementation of ANCP that supports the Bulk Transaction Capability and Message?

Thanks,
Woj.

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