Re: [Asrg] Deprecating plain POP accounts

["Alan DeKok" <aland@freeradius.org>]

Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu> wrote:
> >   My example involved a machine which was NOT intended to originate
> > SMTP.  Due to misconfiguration/bugs, it does.
> 
> that's what you get for running (probably) microsoft.  don't expect us to
> impair the rest of the network to accomodate their brain damage.

  Ad hominem attacks don't validate your position.  Reasoned,
evidence-based arguments validate your position.

> > > this mail is originating from some earthlink.net IP address;  the return
> > > address is moore@cs.utk.edu.   it's perfectly valid for me to be using
> > > that return address to send mail from that IP, or from any other IP that
> > > my laptop happens to be connected to.
> > 
> >   Why?  You're stating it like it's an axiom, or a law of nature.
> 
> it's the way mail is supposed to work.  it's consciously chosen and highly
> desirable behavior.

  Ah.  So it's an axiomatic property of the network, and you're
unwilling or unable to justify your position.  Thanks for verifying
that little bit of nonsense.

> yes.  furthermore, it would be undesirable to force people to connect to
> servers that verified their identities.

  Why?

  Oh, never mind.  You've made it clear that you have no intention of
showing *reasons* for your opinions.  Everyone should just believe you,
because (by Jove) they're *you're* opinions.

  <plonk>

  Alan DeKok.
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