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Re: [Asrg] Let's try something different
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Kee Hinckley wrote:
> At 1:49 PM -0800 3/7/03, Jed Margolin wrote:
> >Traffic from ISPs who refuse to play by the rules will be refused by the
> >Internet Community.
> >
> >In other words, they will be excommunicated.
>
> I that is demonstrably not true. The system has gotten too big for
> that, and the need for connectivity too large. Blacklisting is no
> longer a sufficient threat, and attempts to do so to mixed-use
> providers have resulted in law-suits (witness MAPS). The entire
> thing is complicated by the subjective nature of spam, and the
> question of when to pull the trigger on an ISP. Are they spam
> friendly, or just having trouble keeping their system clean?
>
> I've yet to find any blacklist that was reliable. Even the proxy
> list someone recently posted a URL to here promptly gave us false
> positives--including ones for some people on this list!
The SBL seems very sane and very reliable. The removal mechanism is swift
and responsive, and they seem to achieve action not by threat, but by
communication.
I'd like to see more DNSBLs run like the SBL.
Matt.
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