RE: [Asrg] Several Observations and a solution that addresses them all

[Jason Hihn <jhihn@paytimepayroll.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asrg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:asrg-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Chris
> Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:00 PM
> To: ASRG
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] Several Observations and a solution that addresses
> them all
>
>
> Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 12:40  PM, Chris Lewis wrote:
> >
> >>> Exactly. You have no rights to my info if I did not send to you.
> >>> Don't speak
> >>> until spoken to.
>
> >> But you _did_ send email to him.  Via _this_ mailing list.  How was
> >> your mail server supposed to know that the IETF mailing server
> >> forwarded it to him?
>
> > I'd argue that the relationship is between the subscriber and the
> > mailing list, and that's what ought to be validated. It's up to the
> > mailing list to validate what can be sent by it, but the user's
> > relationship is with the list, not with all of the users on the list.
>
> True, but you'd not only have to get mailing lists "fixed" first, you'd
> have to change the mailing list standards and the MTAs so that the
> receiving MTA could figure that out...

I think they are already 'fixed' unless they are already broken ;-) (="bad
implementation")

> Given how easy this is to circumvent (plus the difficulties of handling
> TEMPFAIL, and services that simply aren't reachable directly by TCP/IP
> at the best of times), I don't think it's worth going down this hole.

This may be a bit cavalier, but if you're having connection problems then I
think your spam/email would be having problems too...

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