Re: [Asrg] Re: Asrg digest, Vol 1 #133 - 14 msgs

[waltdnes@waltdnes.org]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 12:01:44PM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote

> > Have you ever asked them what they think about DUL?
> > What will they think about validating services or RMX? From my
> > experience 80% won't even understand what you are talking about.
> 
> Clearly the distinction between Dial up lists ceases to have
> any utility once everyone is using DSL. Plenty of companies are
> legitimately using DSL to support mail servers. DSL has plenty
> of capacity for that task - heck not so long ago the whole of CERN
> had less bandwidth than my cable provider gives me for my house.

  You're missing the whole point.  It's *NOT* a question of whether the
underlying technology is DSL/Cable/two-cans-connected-with-copper-wire.
The important point is *STATIC* versus *DYNAMIC* IP addresses, and the
accountability issue.  If somebody spams from a static IP address, I can
block the address, and not have to block anybody else.  If the spam
comes from a "cloud" of addresses, and is different every day, I have to
block the entire cloud.  If a business can't get *ONE* static IP address
I really have to question their competence.

> What is needed is a way for Hotmail to say 'we support system X,
> everything else should be rejected'.

..without losing 90% of their customers when they find out that the
rest of the planet doesn't talk "HMTP" (Hotmail Mail Transfer Protocol).
AOL or MSN *MIGHT* get away with this, because...
  a) they're big enough
  b) unlike Yahoo, they have their own internal content.  I'm sure that
     AOL would *LOVE* to go back to the days of their "walled garden".

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
An infinite number of monkeys pounding away on keyboards will
eventually produce a report showing that Windows is more secure,
and has a lower TCO, than linux.
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