RE: [Asrg] SMTP over SSL

[william@elan.net]

Is there a webpage for JamSpam meeting or list of presentations or notes 
on what was discussed?

On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:

>  
> 
> ----- Bob
> I find it hard to believe that if you told the administrators for Hotmail,
> Yahoo, AOL, Earthlink, etc., that you had  a way to decrease the amount of
> e-mail arriving on their network by ~50%, they wouldn't soil themselves with
> excitement?
>  
> 
> At the JamSpam meeting there was a lot of interest from the representatives
> of these companies in developing some form of open authentication mechanism.
>  
> The problem here is that you can't just put those folk in a room and have
> them talk about their business. That would be what lawyers call a PROBLEM.
> 
> Additionally, I don't think I have the same view of liability that everyone
> else does.  The reason that I'm such a big advocate of a certificate based
> system, similar to SSL, is that the certificates can be revoked.  Instead of
> asking networks to pay huge sums of money to other people, why not charge
> them a very large amount of money to get their certificate back (such as
> $10,000).  Anyone who accidentally got the certificate revoked could get it
> back, but it would cause them sufficient pain to ensure that they correct
> their practices.  Also, you make the cost of  spamming much higher...
> everyone who deals with spammers will charge them at least as much money as
> required to get their certificate back once it's revoked.
> 
> Eric
>  
> 
> There are a lot of strategies that can be employed. Including having a
> rating service rather than a revocation service. There is no reason for the
> CA to have to run the rating service, it could be an independent entity. It
> does not have to be black/white listing, it could be a 5 point scale of
> spamminess coupled with a 'member since' indicator.
>  
>         Phill

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