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Re: [Asrg] Spam Control Complexity -- scaling, adoption, diversit y and scenarios

On Sunday, Apr 20, 2003, at 14:15 US/Eastern, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
Fifteen years of trying to deploy PKI through the edge model.

[...]

I am not aware of any Internet service the IETF has succeffully
deployed while I have been involved with it. Not one thing.

The Web was successful before the IETF was involved and largely
in spite of IETF dogma.

Need more proof?
	IPSEC - Has failed in its design niche, currently losing
		ground to SSL based VPNs which work better through
		NAT
	DNSSEC - Still a theory
	IPv6 - Still a theory
Hmm. I use IPSec-based VPN every day, and it works fine via my cheap NAT box without my having to do any reconfiguration at all. I've never seen an SSL-based VPN system.

I've also not seen any use of PKI, bar certificates on web sites for SSL.

I think this must be one of those "your reality may vary" deals.


mathew

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