Re: [Asrg] A New Plan for No Spam / DNSBLS

[Steven F Siirila <sfs@tc.umn.edu>]

The positives of our system have proven to far outweigh the negatives.
No system is perfect.  I do know that before we put this system into
place that we were under great pressures to address the spam problem.
Afterwards, we've received a vast amount of positive feedback, with
very little negative feedback.  Nothing like real-life experience!

On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 07:45:32PM -0700, Larry Marks wrote:
> Steven F Siirila wrote:
> 
> >That depends on the ISP.  We provide our users with the ability to control
> >how or if their mail is blocked/filtered.
> >
> Do you also explain to them that they may miss important mail because 
> the process of blocking/filtering mail is imperfect? Do you explain that 
> blocking and filtering is based on the opinions and prejudices of those 
> that construct them? In other words, is the ability to control 
> blocking/filtering really based on your users' informed consent?
> 
> >ISPs can and should decide how best to run their own mail servers with
> >the customer's best interest in mind.  If that includes use of DNSbls,
> >then so be it.
> >
> There you go again. You claim that your users have the ability to 
> control their own mailin one sentence, and then in the next you turn 
> around and tell me that you, as big daddy in the sky, have to do things 
> to them that are "in their best interests."
> 
> >Nobody said anything about "no accountability."  I sense here nothing more
> >than a strong hatred of DNSbls, likely due to a bad experience with them.
> >
> Well, let's see. My mail got blocked. I spoke to the blocklist, who told 
> me that they only publish the list and they are not responsible for its 
> use. I spoke to the ISP, who told me that they only use the blocklists 
> and are not responsible for their content. Hey, lots of accountability 
> here...
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