RE: [Asrg] Re: 6. Proposals - Pull System (revisited)

["Chris" <asrg@rebel.com.au>]

> that users who are provided with a [Delete spam] button will begin to
> treat it as a "quick unsubscribe" and cast a spam vote for all sorts of
> things, e.g. just because they've changed their mind about receiving it.
>

I agree.

blacklists (scattergun aproach) tend to run at the whim of the blacklist
owner and the people who submit reports to them.

If the owner cracks a wally with you for some reason or if an idiot sharing
your server leaves an open formmail script that a spammer manages to find.
then that can cause irrepairable damage (as they do now).

Then they hide behind the "We don't enforce these lists. just provide a
public service" argument

sorry if I offend any one here who may run a blacklist.

Regards
Chris



> -----Original Message-----
> From: asrg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:asrg-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Bart
> Schaefer
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: ASRG
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] Re: 6. Proposals - Pull System (revisited)
>
>
> On Nov 30,  4:03am, Dag Kihlman wrote:
> }
> } I think blacklists and classifications could go hand in hand.
> Mail clients
> } could be connected to blacklist servers and be part in a voting
> system. When
> } I delete a mail I will have two buttons [Delete] and [Delete
> spam] and the
> } later takes part in the voting system.
>
> The trouble with this is that people soon stop using it properly.
>
> It's fairly clear from the behavior of AOL's "TOS Notification" system
> that users who are provided with a [Delete spam] button will begin to
> treat it as a "quick unsubscribe" and cast a spam vote for all sorts of
> things, e.g. just because they've changed their mind about receiving it.
>
> I'm not wild about the idea of a pull system for email, but it at least
> would not have this issue; the [Delete spam] button would be replaced by
> something more akin to killing a thread in a newsreader, which is more
> often what the users seem to intend.
>
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