RE: [Asrg] 4. Survey of Solutions - Methods of Authentication -Trojans]

["Chris" <asrg@rebel.com.au>]

>
> I am not sure how high the percentage of spam from zombie machines is,
> but it is growing...that much is certain.
>

Yes it is growing, but will it ever reach the proportions of todays mass
mailing?

I sincerley doubt it. not even 100th of todays spam

the other problem is that in effect we can never stop compromised machines
therefore we can never stop spam. so should we give up?

We currently have spammers who have an open system. they can get bulkmail
software from anywhere.

But to trojan a machine to send spam. no way that becomes a federal crime,
and today I believe it can be even classed as an act of terrorism.

FIRST lets close the open system, not keep on thinking of reasons to boo hoo
legitimate ideas.

then rename the ASRG to the ATRG (Anti Trojan Research group)

Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asrg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:asrg-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of
> Fridrik Skulason
> Sent: 1 December 2003 7:31 PM
> To: asrg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] 4. Survey of Solutions - Methods of Authentication
> -Trojans]
>
>
> > If anyone think spammers will move en masse to trojan systems
> to continue
> > their habit, I believe they are sadly mistaken.
>
> I wouldn't be too sure about that.  I am looking at this problem from a
> anti-virus/anti-trojan perspective, and what I am seeing is the
> establisnment
> of several networks of "zombies", used for spam-related purposes - not
> only spamming, but also DoS attacks on anti-spam sites.
>
> The connection between spammers and compromised machines is becoming
> clearer and clearer.
>
> The spammers that just buy spam software from companies like
> www.saurabh.info,
> www.marketing-2000.net, www.massmailsoftware.com or other similar
> companies
> do not use the zombie nets, that's true...you have to look elsewhere,
> for example at the spammers with connections to the Russian criminal
> underground.
>
> I am not sure how high the percentage of spam from zombie machines is,
> but it is growing...that much is certain.
>
> --
> Fridrik Skulason   Frisk Software International   phone: +354-540-7400
> Author of F-PROT   E-mail: frisk@f-prot.com       fax:   +354-540-7401
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