RE: [Asrg] (no subject)

[Barry Shein <bzs at world.std.com>]

Yeah well via some creative editing you managed to reverse my point
and create a straw man to argue with.

The responded-to claim was that it's difficult if not impossible to
imagine a system which could impose a charging mechanism on 5 billion
e-mail msgs/day, too many transactions.

I countred that the fact that we obviously handle those 5B msgs/day
would not seem to argue AGAINST the possibility of adding a little
more processing to each, it would seem to argue FOR the possibility.


But a proof? No, not a proof, not either way. Which was my point
exactly.



On April 27, 2004 at 19:51 pbaker@verisign.com (Hallam-Baker, Phillip) wrote:
 > 
 > > 5 billion transactions per day doesn't impress me as proof positive
 > > of anything, particularly world-wide.
 > > 
 > > Obviously if we can deliver that many emails per day THEN WE CLEARLY
 > > CAN HANDLE THAT MANY TRANSACTIONS PER DAY! Nicht wahr?
 > 
 > The fact we perform 5 billion transactions with no charge mechanism in an
 > entirely decentralized fashion does not provide an existence proof for
 > being able to resolve 5 billion charge transactions.
 > 
 > VeriSign handles 5 billion transactions a day and many milions of payment
 > transactions, they even flow through some of the same systems. But they
 > are not directly equivalent. A single payment transaction costs several 
 > hundred times more to support than a single DNS transaction.
 > 
 > Funny thing is that the minute I suggest accreditation, which would
 > involve each mail server requiring an SSL cert equivalent we have people
 > railing against 'the VeriSign tax'. Then folk go and suggest a payment
 > system which will inevitably require micropayments. Go work out where
 > the cybercash IP is owned.
 > 
 > I don't see the market opportunity here. Setting up a system that could
 > handle the demands is certainly possible, it is already in place for the 
 > telephone. But the telephone markets are trending towards flat fee 
 > charging.
 > 
 > 
 > 		Phill

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