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Re: [Asrg] Death, taxes and E-Postage.



Because the latter would require an extra real-time transaction where
the former may or may not?

On April 28, 2004 at 17:09 bill.mcinnis@messagelevel.com (Bill Mcinnis) wrote:
 > Regardless of which route you go, you need to 
 > establish some sort of message level info in a queryable form,
 > something will need to keep track of who sent what, from where.
 > Once you have set that up, why not just use that check to validate
 > if a message came from where it said it did, by going back to the
 > purported originating system and see if they have the origination
 > record.
 > All that needs to be done from there is to set up a local database
 > to store your origination records, and a module to communicate 
 > server to server (or to the central database) to check it.  A system can be set up to store records 
 > for small mailers (law firsm, etc) who choose not to do that for themselves.
 > 
 > bill mcinnis
 > 
 > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
 > From: "Alan DeKok" <aland@ox.org>
 > Date:  Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:07:37 -0400
 > 
 > >"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com> wrote:
 > >> Sure we could do clearing. Any idea what it would take to set up
 > >> such a system?
 > >
 > >  A fair bit, which is why I was concentrating on the "conceptual"
 > >portion.  "If we did it, ignoring the costs, it would look a lot like
 > >system FOO, so why don't we just do FOO from the start, and avoid the
 > >costs?"
 > >
 > >> The actual figures would be rather different and go through a 
 > >> clearing center:
 > >
 > >  Not necessarily.  Clearing centers are used when independent parties
 > >wish to exchange information through an accredited service.  On the
 > >net, people can talk to each other directly, without using an
 > >accreditation service for each transaction.
 > >
 > >  e.g. I don't need to contact Verisign to check someones credentials,
 > >if I see that their certificate is signed by Verisign.
 > >
 > >  In a theoretical e-postage system, parties can sign messages
 > >indicating consent to nullify mutual "costs" for e-postage.  Those
 > >costs don't have to be real money, they can be e-postage tokens.  The
 > >only need for a central clearing house is then to deal with the final
 > >portions of the costs which aren't mutually negated.
 > >
 > >  But again, if such a system is set up, the end result of e-postage
 > >is pretty much a central accreditation service.  So why not just set
 > >up an accreditation service, and stop the pretense that e-postage is
 > >useful?
 > >
 > >  Alan DeKok.
 > >
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