RE: [Asrg] Re: Spam send/receive ratio

["Chris" <asrg at rebel.com.au>]

>
> > One of the distinguishing characteristics of a spammer is the
> > imbalance between mail sent and mail received.

Totally Unforgivable Rubbish (TUR for short)

I recieve maybe a hundred emails each day. but when I send out to my mail
list I send tens of thousands

under the above 'criteria' I automatically become a "spammer" when in fact I
simply have a lot of potential customers ALL on a double opt in list.

This is very blinkered reasoning.

Regards
Chris




> -----Original Message-----
> From: asrg-admin at ietf.org [mailto:asrg-admin at ietf.org]On Behalf Of Jim
> Witte
> Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 6:14 AM
> To: asrg at ietf.org
> Subject: [Asrg] Re: Spam send/receive ratio
>
>
> > One of the distinguishing characteristics of a spammer is the
> > imbalance between mail sent and mail received.  Unfortunately I do not
> > see a convenient way to penalize people who fall into this category.
>
>    One idea about this (although I don't know how scalable it is) would
> be, if you could authenticate the sender ie DomainKeys or the like,
> then every sender would have a send/receive ratio (somewhere), which
> would be entered into the mail header in some way that it could not be
> spoofed (more protocol changes though).  Then if a mail is received by
> the end-user's inbox, it could check the ratio, and decide whether to
> accept/reject/quarantine it.
>
>    But I sill don't see a way to penalize senders who are rejected too
> often.  Although perhaps it could be integrated into the 'delay' in
> creating the email-stamp/introduction-stamp (the more higher your
> send/receive ratio goes, the more it "costs" to send new stuff)
> Another possibility is of course law enforecement, but this would seem
> to require some centralization of the ratio information, and whose
> rejecting what.
>
>    The send/receive ratio might also be a problem for mailing lists -
> maybe, I'd have to see statistics.
>
> Jim
>
>
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