Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-00

[mathew <meta at pobox.com>]

On May 5, 2004, at 0:05, Walter Dnes wrote:
>   It's easy for many in the "NANAE elite" crowd to switch ISP and
> re-route incoming email addressed to a personal domain, without having
> to notify dozens or hundreds of contacts about a new email address.  
> Joe
> average does not have that ability, and big corporations find ISP
> switchovers a painful experience.

Actually, in my experience Joe Average typically uses a webmail 
account, and finds it very easy to switch ISP without having to notify 
dozens of people. Everyone in my family who has a personal e-mail 
account uses webmail, even though I've tried to persuade them of the 
virtues of an actual e-mail client. Most of my friends use web mail 
too.

Joe Averages who don't want to use webmail can use a forwarding service.

On May 5, 2004, at 11:47, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
> OK, Anderson accounting enabled Enron, does that mean that it is
> legitimate to sanction every customer of Anderson?

Whenever I look at a customer of Anderson, I consider strongly the 
belief that their accounts are a work of fiction. Seems entirely 
legitimate to me.

Also, when considering possible bids for some outsourced work, I 
considered the whole of Enron to be disreputable based on their past 
associations with a certain George W. Bush. And I'm very glad that I 
did.

On May 5, 2004, at 22:30, Barry Shein wrote:
> Imagine if I put up a web site with a list with your name and picture
> on it under the heading "Known Pedophiles".

Nobody with two brain cells to rub together would believe it.

> Why do you think we have slander, libel, incitement to riot, etc laws?

I think we have libel and slander laws partly because historically, 
they were drafted to deal with a world where comparatively few people 
had access to any form of mass communications. They are still useful 
where the false statements have caused substantial financial damage, or 
where there is a gross inequity between the media access of the two 
parties. For individual vs individual, though, they often seem to me 
like an anachronism. Going back to your example, if you did put up the 
web page on your personal web site, I can't see how it would serve any 
purpose other than pure financial gain for me to sue you for libel in 
response.


mathew
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