Re: [Asrg] Where I think we are...

["Jon Kyme" <jrk at merseymail.com>]

Barry Shein wrote:
> 
> The very concept of the internet has been seriously compromised.
> 
> This is why the spammers are effecting a sea change in the operation
> of the internet, ending for example end-to-end services such as being
> able to deliver your own email w/o use of an intermediary "official"
> server (aka port 25 blocking.)
> 


[snip...]
 
> Put another way, it's not the spam which is a problem, it's what makes
> it impossible to stop, short of abandoning fundamental assumptions
> about the medium, which is the problem.
> 
> 


Barry, I think you make a very good point. It may be that the end-to-end
arguments have been over-applied. I know that this is a quasi-religious
matter for some of us, but I don't believe that many accept that "Just
Deliver the Bits" would be an acceptable basis for *application* behaviour
in "today's internet".

We're seeing more decision-making (throttling, DNSBL, content-filtering
etc) deployed in the email infrastructure.
We see an increasing trend to closed mail systems. 
I can't see any possibility of a less hindered end-to-end mail transport
system that doesn't include an end-to-end consent (or permission)
component. This seems to have been side-lined (as a "hard problem"),
leaving us using a less reliable MTS, with which it may be more difficult
to build a consent-component than otherwise.
  
Where do we go from here? Does it matter?






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