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Re: [Asrg] Blacklisted from posting to asrg

At 5:58 AM -0700 6/6/05, vwl at elan.net wrote:
Apparently the ASRG chair has decided to blacklist me from posting on my primary address as constructive technical critique of his own proposal
and its security weaknesses is not something he can deal with and is good enough reason to blacklist one of the largest contributors to ASRG who has been here from the beginning (and of course he also failed to mention to me or on the list that I was blacklisted from posting to the list). 

On what basis do you believe this?

I see a post from you about BATV on the list yesterday with these headers:

Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william at elan.net>
To: John Levine <asrg at johnlevine.com>
Subject: Re: [Asrg] Re: BATV and SES - was forged bounces
In-Reply-To: <20050604173551.20008.qmail at xuxa.iecc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0506041050180.17965 at sokol.elan.net>
References: <20050604173551.20008.qmail at xuxa.iecc.com>


I also see 2 tests, one from william at elan.net:

Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william at elan.net>
To: asrg at ietf.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0506051757360.2487 at sokol.elan.net>


and one from vwl at elan.net, apparently with no From header until it was added by the list server:

From: vwl at elan.net
Received: from sokol.elan.net ([216.151.192.200])
	by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DfHSJ-0000Ao-7q
	for asrg at ietf.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:15:52 -0400
Received: from sokol.elan.net (sokol [127.0.0.1])
	by sokol.elan.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j56CsGLw027838
	for <asrg at ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:54:16 -0700
Received: from localhost (vwl at localhost)
	by sokol.elan.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j56CsFs6027834
	for <asrg at ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:54:16 -0700
X-Authentication-Warning: sokol.elan.net: vwl owned process doing -bs
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:54:15 -0700 (PDT)
To: asrg at ietf.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0506060542340.19056 at sokol.elan.net>


You're more then welcome to comment now how appropriate this was on or
off the list. But in the mean time I'm going to contact IRTF Chair to get this ban removed and request that different list moderorator be assigned.

You might want to be sure that there is a 'ban' before you go off complaini9ng to anyone about one.


P.S. Probably would mean you'd have to wait a bit longer to hear about
my paper, which is quite good and likely of interest to many here.
The delay is not my fault obviously.

Not so obvious from here, given that you've not apparently had any problem getting 5 messages delivered to the list from your supposedly banned address in the past 60 hours, but might well be having some sort of problem knowing that you've had such success in delivery.


--
Bill Cole bill at scconsult.com


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