On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Michael Thomas wrote:
Daniel Feenberg wrote:Talk about the law of unintended consequences. This gives an immenseOne has to remember that MAPS killed open relays quite quickly - behavior modification works. The operators of MTAs behind generic addresses are almost all insignificant and can easily adopt a smarthost once they realize they need one. I understand it is hard to make major ISPs kowtow to RFCs. This isn't in that league of difficulty at all.Even if it were "the solution", the PBL with something like 5-6 years of accumulated "pool addresses" behind it (from many many sources) should demonstrate that it's no easy task. Pool listings are _frightfully_ expensive in man-hours to maintain.
amount of control to providers who have many, many built in conflicts. It's
not just email that's at stake here, but end user servers/services in general.
If we force everybody who would have the audacity to run their own services
Dan Feenberg
to go through their local unfriendly ISP, then we might as well rebuild the circuit switched network with its stellar track record of delivering new and innovative services. The ability to route around damage was one of the key innovations of the net. I'd much rather keep that and look for other ways to deal with our problems than reverting back to known dysfunction.
Mike
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