Re: [Asrg] New draft draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-01.txt

[Matthew Sullivan <matthew at sorbs.net>]

SM wrote:
> At 22:29 30-03-2008, Douglas Otis wrote:
>   
>> This is Dave Rand again, again - I am not part of this mailing list,
>> and am responding via this forum simply to provide facts, figures and
>> current status.  I continue to be available for questions, comments
>> and backing data.
>>     
>
> I gather that Dave Rand is not following the discussion as he is not 
> part of the mailing list.  It's not conducive to have a discussion 
> under these circumstances.
>   


So who are you and what do you have to do with DNSbls?



> The DNSL operator is free to have an expiration of 20 years.  This 
> draft is a BCP.  It's up the operator to determine whether they wish 
> to follow it or not.
>   


Speaking as a DNSbl creator/operator/maintainer/owner I would like to 
point out that 'BCP' stands for 'Best *Current* Practices'...  I see 
little point in any BCP document that does not actually relate to the 
*CURRENT* practices whether best or not.  I would expect as a minimum 
that any document you wish to create would have input from the most used 
DNSbls in the world (at least the top 3, but I would expect in reality 
that it were the top 10 or more) and it would actually reflect their 
current practices where there is common ground. 


>> Perhaps I am mis-reading this, or perhaps I'm just confused about the
>> intent of the draft to insulate service providers from any requirement
>> of action.  If I am, I apologize to the group.  Again, I am *all for*
>>     
>
> If there's any requirement for service providers to act upon, it 
> makes adoption of the draft more difficult.
>   



Creating a document that mandates or indicates operation other than how 
the *current* DNSbls operate will make the draft pointless as it will be 
ignored and the  DNSbl operator will say that they are not going to 
change their policy for a bunch of people with no clue about real life 
operation of DNSBls.

Regards,

Mat

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