Re: [Autoconf] On WG progress and draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model

["Charles E. Perkins" <charles.perkins at earthlink.net>]

Hello Alex,

Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
> > > If we realize that was wrong, then we need a procedure to deal with
> > >  that.  Ideas feel free to  express how to deal with it.
> >
> > My suggestion would be to ask your contacts on the IESG about which
> > working group would be appropriate for this work.
>
> Hmmm... let me think... who do I know in IESG...

They have colorful dots and love to spend time on process
details :-)

> Otherwise, let's see what we can do process-wise here in AUTOCONF.

Indeed.  I'd suggest promulgating the draft after verifying
consensus.

> How about asking the Chairs to ask the Group to send their requests for
> agenda items soon?

I thought that was already done, at your instigation.

> This is also a sort of process, or ways I see happening already in
> many WGs, and not in AUTOCONF :-(

Yes, I see many working groups making progress.

> If we do that agenda stuff now, then there'll be less surprise later 
> during the meeting.
>
> Or you prefer to be surprised?

I'm already surprised, but of course setting the agenda
soon would be a good idea.  And in other emails I see
that some agenda topics were identified.

> [...]
>
> > > I have never seen any other time where people submit WG items
> > > before having consensus on the WG.
> >
> > You might want to check on that.
>
> Well I checked recently 6MAN, NETEXT, MEXT, ROLL, 6LoWPAN - the 5 had 
> calls for WG item adoption.  Often there was call for adoption of the 
> DT output too.

I think Jari Arkko had email relevant to this topic.

> I am not nitpickying sorry.  I have already discussed twice offline 
> with somebody else surprised how we don't see agenda, no item adoption 
> call, on this WG.
>
> Let alone the non-use of the issue tracker.

This is a good point.  The issue tracker is terribly underutilized
in most working groups, as I found out to my surprise when I
was trying to learn to use it.


Regards,
Charlie P.