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RE: [AVT] SRTP and ICMP destination unreachable ...



Hi John
you are right, SRTP does not face the issue, nor it 
should.
The security of ICMP is a problem per-se. A number of 
protocols can be affected, starting from routing. 
Unauthenticated ICMP messages can bring to a lot of _bad_ 
things. Note also, similar messages (teardown, shut down, 
error etc) can probably come from other control protocols and 
other protocols at other layers.
I think it is sometimes practice not to take drastic
actions based on unauthenticated ICMP messages.

Cheers
/E



> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Lazzaro [mailto:lazzaro@CS.Berkeley.EDU]
> Sent: den 29 oktober 2002 19:55
> To: avt@ietf.org
> Subject: [AVT] SRTP and ICMP destination unreachable ...
> 
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 	I'm been doing a code review of the sfront networking system
> (which partially implements an authentication system similar to SRTP)
> as part of the writing process for the MWPP implementation guide, and
> was wondering about this line in the SRTP I-D:
> 
> > Message authentication for RTCP is REQUIRED, as it is the control 
> > protocol (e.g., it has a BYE packet) for RTP.
> 
> 	If an implementation follows this advice, should it also
> ignore ICMP destination unreachable packets (i.e. the ICMP packet that
> results in the ECONNREFUSED errno under UNIX)?
> 
> 	I'm not well versed at what happens at the network layer with
> ICMP, but I was under the impression that it would be pretty easy for
> an attacker to send ICMP packets that would end a particular media
> stream, if he was able to snoop on the IP headers of the stream in the
> clear. So, accepting unauthenticated ICMP destination unreachable
> packets would seem to opening up the same attacks as accepting
> unauthenticated RTCP BYE commands ...
> 
> 	I did a quick scan through the SRTP document and didn't see
> this issue discussed, my apologies if I missed it ...
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
> John Lazzaro -- Research Specialist -- CS Division -- EECS -- 
> UC Berkeley
> lazzaro [at] cs [dot] berkeley [dot] edu     
www.cs.berkeley.edu/~lazzaro
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