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Re: [AVT] Re: [MMUSIC] RE: Draft -04 of Comedia over TLS submitted.Ready for WGLC?



[avt list bcc'd -- discussion on mmusic]

On 8 Jul 2005, at 15:06, Jonathan Lennox wrote:
On Friday, July 8 2005, "Magnus Westerlund" wrote:
Can you please remind where and when the decision was taken to not
define TCP/TLS/RTP/AVP? All I find is some loose discussion without
conclusion about the topic, but nothing I can interpret as an WG
consensus on this.

It was at the MMusic meeting in San Diego (August 2004), following my
initial presentation of comedia-tls. Here's the relevant paragraph from the
minutes:


An open issue is that this defines only TCP/TLS, not TCP/TLS/ RTP/AVP.
Similarly, nothing defines TCP/RTP/SAVP. What should be the preferred
way of doing secure connection-oriented RTP? Steve Casner suggested
that it might be appropriate to wait until there is a use case for
SRTP over connection oriented media, rather than trying to specify it
now.


As I recall, Steve's comment got a rough nodding of heads. So I wouldn't
say that a decision was explicitly taken not to define this, so much as that
no decision was taken *to* define it.


I am in favor of defining both TCP/TLS/RTP/AVP and TCP/TLS/RTP/AVPF.

TCP/TLS/RTP/AVP, yes. I'm not sure what the use-case is for
TCP/TLS/RTP/AVPF -- I thought most of the motivation for AVPF was for
bandwidth adaptation and improved delivery reliablity, both of which seem to
be redundant for something transmitted over TCP.

As an additional factor in the discussion, I note that the comedia- tls draft is normatively referenced by the MRCPv2 spec, which is nearing completion. I don't want to prevent useful additions to the comedia-tls draft, but we shouldn't add features with only theoretical usefulness if doing so will significantly delay a draft with present needs.


Colin


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