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Re: [AVT] Working group last call: JPEG-2000 payload format



Boudani Ali skrev:
Can you please clarify why it isn't enough with a 90 kHz clock even for

professional video? When is their need for time jitter related to when
a
frame was sampled needs to be smaller than what a 90kHz clock provide. specially considering that most of the frame rates used will have perfect match to a particular tick increment per frame. I don't think
we
have heard any such issues being raised in AVT before. If we do miss a critical motivation then this applies to all our video payload formats,

not only one.

I didn't say smaller. The RTP timestamp in the draft is used also as a presentation time. So in that case, if you want to mix two frames, you need the pixel precision (The clock frequency used in SD is 27MHz). That's why I am saying that 90KHz (one and only) is not enough. If you put "SHOULD be 90 KHz", that may be a solution since the user could then put its frequency value in rtpmap (a=rtpmap:..../frequency) in the SDP session.


I don't really see how this is applicable. Why would you use the RTP timestamp to accomplish analog video signal synchronization to pixel level when you can mix the video frames in the digital domain and then send the mixed video frames to the digital to analog transmission converter? That way you only need to accomplish the association of the frames from the different streams that needs to go together. That synchronization can be accomplished even if one used a clock ticking at the frame-rate.


Also, are you really expecting these operations to happen on the JPEG-2000 video format? I can maybe understand if we where talking about the uncompressed video format that handles individual pixels.

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund

IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair
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