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Re: [AVT] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-perkins-avt-rapid-rtp-sync-03.txt



Stefan Döhla wrote:
Hi Thomas,

Thomas.Schierl at hhi.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Hi Stefan,

Stefan Döhla wrote:
Colin, Thomas, all,

the draft is describing the proposed header extension and RTCP SR request quite good, however:

Isn't the NTP timestamp generation subject to the same problems as in RTCP? I could easily send an RTCP SR as well for every RTP packet within a sampling instance of one (in terms of RTP time), i.e. there could be an RTP packet and an RTCP SR packet containing the same RTP timestamp if I were able to generate them virtually at the same time (just a few ns away). Clearly, this is not datarate-efficient nor sensible, but I don't see a big difference to the proposed approach.

So what about the source for the NTP time: Should the NTP time be filtered at the sender before inclusion into the HDR_EXT? Because if not, the NTP timestamp would either be only related to the RTP timeline (bad - then we have two different timelines, one via RTCP, the other in the HDR_EXT) or be jittery (bad because not instantly useful, though the same timeline as RTCP).

Here it is important to use the same NTP timestamp value for the same point of synchronization in all the sessions. This is only guaranteed, if such header extensions are used for the same sampling time instance in all the sessions, i.e. using the same NTP wallclock timestamp. I think this is stated in the draft.
Let me rephrase it a little: If I accidentally receive an RTCP SR with the same RTP timestamp as in an RTP packet in either session, would the NTP timestamp be the same?
For the same RTP timestamp in SR and RTP packet, the NTP timestamp in the header extension as well as in the SR shall be the same.

Thomas


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