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Re: [AVT] New draft of "Rapid Acquisition of Multicast RTP Sessions (RAMS)" available



Roni-
 
Yes, the document needs updating in this respect. We have two broad options which need to be described in detail.
 
The method that I have been assuming does use muxing. The RS sends the unicast burst back to the UDP port number on the RR that sent the RAMS-R. This allows transparent operation through NAT. There is a single UDP port, and the transaction is initiated by the "client", so it is NAT friendly.
 
There are quite a few ways we could handle the case in which muxing is not used. We could add a parameter to the RAMS-R, use another RTCP packet in the same compound packet, define the port numbers as a relationship to the opened port (not attractive), or define something in the SDP (also not attractive). I personally like the "RAMS-R optional field" approach, but I think this should be a topic that we consider in detail once we have a WG item.
 
 
 
 
bvs
 


From: Roni Even [mailto:ron.even.tlv at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:24 AM
To: avt at ietf.org
Cc: Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
Subject: RE: [AVT] New draft of "Rapid Acquisition of Multicast RTP Sessions (RAMS)" available

Hi,

I think that the current draft does not give a description of a system that works since there is no text explaining how the RS knows the unicast transport address on the RR to where to send the stream.

If you mandate the use of RTP/RTCP mux it should say so otherwise the RAMS-R should have an optional parameter that supplies this information and a flag for using RTP/RTCP mux.

Thanks

Roni Even

 

From: avt-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:avt-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:39 PM
To: avt at ietf.org
Subject: [AVT] New draft of "Rapid Acquisition of Multicast RTP Sessions (RAMS)" available

 

There is a new draft of the "Rapid Acquisition of Multicast RTP Sessions (RAMS)" draft available at http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-versteeg-avt-rapid-synchronization-for-rtp-03.txt

 

We have incorporated the changes from the technical breakout session in San Francisco. The major changes in this version of the draft include

1- Changing the document title to avoid confusion with other ongoing "synchronization" drafts

2- changing the message names to reflect the title change

3- clarification of the RTCP message semantics, including changes to the "Request" and "Inform" messages

4- additional description/motivation for the various message flows has been added

5- RTP/RTCP muxing has been added

 

 

We hope to make this a Working Group item, and will change the name of the draft to avoid conflicts with other "synchronization" drafts at that time.

 

Bill VerSteeg