RE: [bmwg] Is the BMWG a proper home for this I-D?

["Robert Holley" <rholley at cisco.com>]

> >I believe the industry is now increasing it's interest
> >on a larger question for which routing protocol convergence
> >is a significant corner stone.
> 
> You're talking about an important issue that doesn't really fall into 
> the scope of any group -- and it should. I find out more about this 

agreed, I believe the scope is large enough where
it would have to be divided into areas of expertise.
Hence, the IETF, being IP experts, could provide 
technical leadership on parts of the IP portion.
Perhaps the first and foremost of importance would 
be routing protocol convergence (imho).

> from some industry policy & law lists like cybertel (Telecom 
> Regulation & the Internet, <CYBERTELECOM-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM>  for 
> anyone interested) than anywhere else.  Yet that sort of mailing 
> list, with a few significant exceptions, is rather limited in 
> technical experts.
> 

I've been participating in an industry organization called
the "Network Reliability and Interoperability Council"
NRIC (www.nric.org) for some time now. NRIC is a D.C. based
organization that is chartered by the FCC to investigate
many different issues. One being network reliability and 
outage reports. In fact, NRIC is the organization that oversees
the national outage reporting for the telephony industry today.

> 
> I don't have a real answer. There is a twilight zone where things 
> start getting out of the traditional scope of the IETF Operations 
> Area, but don't really have other places to go. I wish somebody had 
> an idea that would catch fire. The work is valuable, but there is no 
> scope for it.
> 

I don't think there is a real answer at this time.

But there needs to be a accepted, uniform method developed that can be used
to quantify the reliability of an IP network.

It seems like routing protocol convergence is a good place to 
start.

My concern is that if the IETF does not address the question,
(at least the portion where it has expertise),
then other organizations will attempt as best possible
to provide guidance. Which would be a less than optimal approach.

> This is really off topic, but I wonder if there might be the remotest 
> chance of something like an "Internet Operations Task Force" spawned 
> by ISOC.
> 

Well, if that is what it would take....
I am not familar with the flexibility of the ISOC on such matters.

regards
Bob

_______________________________________________
bmwg mailing list
bmwg@ietf.org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg