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Re: [Cfrg] soliciting feedback on HKDF



On Monday,2009-10-19, at 17:36 , Dan Harkins wrote:

A very nice I-D and I think HKDF will be a valuable building block for protocol designers.

I would like to echo this sentiment: in attempting to stringently evaluate "Everything that could possibly go wrong" with Tahoe-LAFS's crypto design [1], I keep thinking that the KDF is a linchpin component in several places. (The recent revelation of related-key issues in AES-256 is one of the reasons to think this.) Thank you for working on the design and standardization of HKDF!

For what it is worth -- I really don't want to start an argument about this somewhat tangential issue -- I don't like HMAC-SHA256 nearly as well as I like Poly1305-AES or Poly1305-Salsa20. This is an unfortunate period in cryptography when there isn't a really good secure hash function that we can rely on, and the strong security proofs and superior performance of the Carter-Wegman MACs like Poly1305 look better to me than the security proofs of HMAC.

Regards,

Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn

[1] http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/wiki/NewCaps/WhatCouldGoWrong