Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements and testing

Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Sat, 09 April 2011 15:34 UTC

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With hat:

Wrong answer.

In the IETF, as a group, we look at information made available by the
rightholders (to the IETF, or, when there are other SDOs involved, at
their disclosure system and/or their patent policy).  Those of us who feel
qualified can also look at objectively verifiable (by anyone!) data such
as patent expiration dates.

We do not look at known, rumored, or unknown licensing deals.  We do not
solicit such information.

Let's stay out of antitrust trouble.

Stephan


On 4.9.2011 08:21 , "Ron" <ron@debian.org> wrote:

>On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 05:42:59PM +0300, Roni Even wrote:
>> Jean Marc,
>> G.722.1 and G.722.1C were mentioned as royalty free codecs. Is OPUS one?
>
>Has anyone requested or obtained a royalty from anyone using it?
>That should give as black and white an answer to that question as there
>is.
>
>Now can we please stop repeating this.  There was another list set up
>specifically for telling patent ghost stories.
>
>Thanks.
>
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