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DANE <dane.list@iswho.me> Mon, 17 June 2013 06:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dane] The DANE list and psudonmyms...
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Warren Kumari wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I suspect that this might be a contentious call, but I feel that it is
> well within my rights as a chair. I have not spoken with my co-chair
> about this, so if there is a kerfuffle / centi-thread on discuss@, it is
> my fault :-P
> 
> I would prefer that participants not use pseudonyms on the DANE list. As
> an IETF participant contributions fall under the Note Well -- having
> contributions coming from a name that is obviously a pseudonym "feels"
> wrong, and I'm concerned about the IPR implications.
> 
> Now, obviously fairly much all of the identities participating *could* be
> pseudonyms (e.g has anyone seen John C. Klensin's drivers license /
> passport?), but most of the participants / identities hare are known
> (e.g. I know and have met the entry that uses the label Richard Barnes --
> no clue if that is his legal name, but I have no reason to suspect it
> isn't).

So basically you're saying that as long as a name appears to be a real
one then it's okay, whilst anything that obviously isn't a real name is
not ? How will that judgement be made ? If for example someone called
'Poo Ann Wee' from Singapore registers how will you tell if it's fake or
not ? 

Closed Shops have been illegal in the UK since 1990 btw ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_Shop

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