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Re: [dccp] Mul-TFRC (draft-welzl-multfrc-00)

Tom,
I don't see anything in the Charter about using DCCP as a platform for experimental standards - although clearly you *could* do that and there are codepoints for experimentation, and that is fine. I was urging restraint in standardising these new CCIDs.
I also recall that ICCRG would be the first point point of review for transport protocols that were not already deployed, or needed review prior to being taken to a WG. I don't recall a special case for ICCRG in the DCCP charter text. 

Gorry

Phelan, Tom wrote:

Hi Gorry,

It's been a while since I read the DCCP charter carefully, but I seem to
remember something about cooperating with ICCRG to experiment with new
congestion control protocols.  My take on that is that we should
consider creating experimental-track RFCs for protocols that have some
level of support from the ICCRG (we can discuss what that level of
support should be).

One of the benefits of doing this through DCCP is that the congestion
control protocol developer can concentrate on just that and let DCCP
carry the burden of the rest of what makes a transport protocol.  This
seems to me to be good for the CC developers and good for DCCP, even
though it won't necessarily lead to production deployment of DCCP
(unless one of these CC protocols is a hit :-)).

Tom P.


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Pasi asked for comments on MulTFRC...

I don't see the application (yet) that will drive this forward and the
user community that wants this to deliver whatever they need to do. If
people have potential uses for this, then it would be really good to
hear them.

My take is that this is an interesting piece of research, and it could
be safe - I think it's good to experiment with new CC methods, however

I

don't see the need to standardise each method, I question whether this
will encourage production use of DCCP. In this case, I'm not yet
persuaded there is a standardisation need.

Gorry