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Re: [dhcwg] [New I-D] DHCP User-based Authentication



yes, this is a fundamental question. the ietf protocol for IP-based
network access is EAP in UDP: PANA. whatever we may think of the details
of PANA, it's hard to imagine that the DHCP packet format and protocol
state-machine are likely to provide a technically superior solution. and
it's hard to imagine the ietf's supporting the use of DHCP for this
purpose, when much work has gone into EAP and PANA. trying to solve all
of the technical problems (especially the security problems) within DHCP
packets would likely - in my opinion - consume a great deal of time and
effort but be very unlikely to result in a standard. I don't think it's
worth heading down that path.

I also agree on the charter issue: I don't think anything more than
security for the DHCP client/server exchanges is in the DHCP charter.

-- Mark

Yoshihiro Ohba wrote:
> A fundamental question.
> 
> Is this WG chartered for developing a solution for network access
> authentication and authorization other than developing authentication
> mechanisms for DHCP?
> 
> I am asking this because Introduction of
> draft-zhao-dhc-user-authentication-00.txt says:
> 
> "
>    An authentication mechanism for DHCPv4 protocol messages was
>    developed in [RFC3118].This allows DHCP clients and servers to
>    authenticate each other.  Our purpose differs in that we want to
>    authenticate and authorize a user before he accesses a provider
>    network, to apply policy to customize this access connection to
>    account for the service.
> "
> 
> Best regards,
> Yoshihiro Ohba
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 11:07:17AM +0800, Amy Zhao wrote:
>> Hi, All:
>>
>> We posted a new I-D as follows.  
>>
>> It's a pretty rough draft  and we need your feedback.
>>
>>  Any comments / advices will be highly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> B.R.
>> Amy 
>>
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>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>> directories.
>>
>>
>> 	Title		: DHCP User-based Authentication
>> 	Author(s)	: Y. Zhao
>> 	Filename	: draft-zhao-dhc-user-authentication-00.txt
>> 	Pages		: 24
>> 	Date		: 2006-10-2
>> 	
>> This document defines an authentication mechanism to provide an
>> authentication for a user in an access network by means of dhcp.  The
>> authentication mechanism described here couples DHCP to an
>> authentication, authorization and accounting system (AAA), thus
>> enabling users to supply user credentials for AAA via DHCP.
>>
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zhao-dhc-user-authentication-00.tx
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