RE: [Dime] AW: [AAA-WG]: RE: Conclusions on the draft "ResourceManagement Extensions"

["Tolga Asveren" <asveren at ulticom.com>]

One more question about this draft:

AFAICS, there are actually two different issues (they are related but not
the same):
a)Preventing session leaking
Making sure that after a node fails, other nodes do not continue keeping
state for the lost sessions.

b)Retrieving state information
After a node reboots, it retrieves its state data from another node.

When I first read draft-bodin-dime-auditing-reqs-00, I had the impression
that the main concern is a), based on the example scenarios described. OTOH,
draft-calhoun-diameter-res-mgmt-08 seem to deal with b).

So, what is the main issue a) or b)? If both, what are their priorities.

   Thanks,
   Tolga

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tschofenig, Hannes [mailto:hannes.tschofenig at siemens.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:33 AM
> To: Bernard Aboba; Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
> Cc: aaa-wg at merit.edu; dime at ietf.org
> Subject: [Dime] AW: [AAA-WG]: RE: Conclusions on the draft
> "ResourceManagement Extensions"
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> may I raise your attention to the following draft submitted for
> this meeting.
>
> Requirement for the addition of Auditing Functionality to Diameter
> http://psg.com/~avri/dime/draft-bodin-dime-auditing-reqs-00.txt
>
> Unfortunately, it did not yet show up.
>
> Ciao
> Hannes
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: owner-aaa-wg at merit.edu [mailto:owner-aaa-wg at merit.edu]
> > Im Auftrag von Bernard Aboba
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2006 16:24
> > An: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
> > Cc: MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS; aaa-wg at merit.edu
> > Betreff: [AAA-WG]: RE: Conclusions on the draft "Resource
> > Management Extensions"
> >
> > As Pat said, the major priority of the AAA WG was completing
> > work on the
> > Diameter Base protocol and applications.  I actually don't
> > recall whether
> > the WG made a judgement on the Resource Management draft; it
> > just wasn't
> > one of the top priorities.
> >
> > I will say that the Diameter architecture provides a much more sound
> > base for resource management than RADIUS does.  Most of the resource
> > management implementations I have seen on RADIUS need to
> > incorporate other
> > information sources for validation, in order to deal with
> > potential losses
> > of RADIUS Accounting packets.  Since Diameter runs over reliable
> > transport, it should not have to do this.
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:
> >
> > > I'll let Bernard speak for the WG, but at the time the WG
> > had many other
> > > priorities, and resource management was not one of them. However, I
> > > haven't had the opportunity to participate in the AAA WG
> > for some time,
> > > so I'm not sure if this could be an opportune time to
> > re-introduce it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Pat Calhoun
> > > CTO, Wireless Networking Business Unit
> > > Cisco Systems
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > 	From: MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS
> > > [mailto:lionel.morand at orange-ft.com]
> > > 	Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:07 AM
> > > 	To: Bernard Aboba; Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
> > > 	Subject: Conclusions on the draft "Resource Management
> > > Extensions"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 	Hi,
> > > 	I would like to know what were the conclusions on the following
> > > draft initiated by Pat: draft-calhoun-diameter-res-mgmt-08.txt.
> > >
> > (http://quimby.gnus.org/internet-drafts/draft-calhoun-diameter
> > -res-mgmt-
> > > 08.txt
> > >
> > <http://quimby.gnus.org/internet-drafts/draft-calhoun-diameter
> > -res-mgmt-
> > > 08.txt> )
> > >
> > > 	Some folks from TISPAN are initiating a document based on this
> > > draft to perform resource management after failover, proposing to
> > > enhance the Diameter base protocol with dedicated commands.
> > I'm pretty
> > > sure that the previous comments/concerns about such enhancements are
> > > still valid.
> > >
> > > 	BR,
> > > 	Lionel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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