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Re: [Ecrit] Emergency calling without endpoint/VSP location support



I fully support Richard's proposal. This is a real problem and must be solved.

Laura

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Barnes" <rbarnes at bbn.com>
To: "ECRIT" <ecrit at ietf.org>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:20 AM
Subject: [Ecrit] Emergency calling without endpoint/VSP location support


In the ECRIT meeting at IETF 73, Hannes proposed forming a Design Team on what I'll call "IP-to-location" mapping. He correctly observed that several planned architectures for VoIP emergency calling involve PSAPs or VSPs doing something like the following process in order to get location information for endpoints:
1. Gets an emergency call from a caller at a given IP address
2. Determine the ISP responsible for that IP address
3. Fetch location from the ISP

The solution above is *obviously* a hack, because step 2 involves a lot of uncertainty on any reasonable scale. However, the problem it addresses is real, especially in the short term: How should a VSP route a call if endpoints don't support location? (Likewise, how should a PSAP get location if VSPs and endpoints don't support location?)

In order to address this problem, some sort of IP-to-location mapping will be required. As Jon pointed out in the meeting, this will not be solvable for the general Internet, for the same reason that we've always assumed that ISPs and VSPs are decoupled. However, I think this mapping can be enabled in certain circumstances, if the parties involved (ISPs, VSPs/PSAPs) have the right relationships and implement the right things. (Purposely vague, because I don't have a solution!)

So I'd like to suggest that ECRIT think about a document of the following form: 1. Problem statement: Need to route emergency calls even when endpoints don't support location (get endpoint location at the PSAP when endpoints and VSPs don't provide it) 2. How and when this problem can be solved (and why it doesn't scale up to Internet)
3. How to transition from this system to the ECRIT architecture

I don't know if I'm the best person to write such a document, but I'd be glad to help out.

--Richard
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