Re: [Ecrit] Proposal to add "applicability" statement to -framework/-phonebcp

["DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <drage at alcatel-lucent.com>]

Where you have said "network to take a more expansive role", I think generally we need to say we have not addressed the issues that may arise where it does so. That is essentially the crux of the difference between the two models, and we have agreed in the past that there is a framework/phonebcp phase 2 will attempt to address this issue.

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecrit-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces at ietf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Richard Barnes
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:07 AM
> To: James M. Polk
> Cc: Rosen, Brian; ECRIT
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Proposal to add "applicability" 
> statement to -framework/-phonebcp
> 
> Updated proposal:
> 
> This document describes an architecture for emergency calling 
> in the typical Internet environment, in which the calling 
> device bears most of the burden of implementing emergency 
> calls, and the caller's Internet Service Provider has a 
> supporting role.  The underlying specifications allow for the 
> network to take a more expansive role in emergency calls, but 
> such cases are not covered extensively in this document (they 
> are left for future study in other documents).
> 
> 
> 
> James M. Polk wrote:
> > At 06:34 PM 3/23/2009, Rosen, Brian wrote:
> >> Some other document, in some other organization probably.
> > 
> > could that be said - to leave the read knowing we are purposely not 
> > answering the question "here".
> > 
> > 
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: James M. Polk [mailto:jmpolk at cisco.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:33 PM
> >> To: Richard Barnes; Rosen, Brian
> >> Cc: ECRIT
> >> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Proposal to add "applicability" statement to 
> >> -framework/-phonebcp
> >>
> >> both versions beg the question:
> >>
> >>          - so where are they covered?
> >>
> >> (re: the end of the last sentence)
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >> At 06:27 PM 3/23/2009, Richard Barnes wrote:
> >> >Editorial changes:
> >> >
> >> >This document describes an architecture for emergency 
> calling in the 
> >> >typical Internet environment, in which the calling device 
> bears most 
> >> >of the burden of implementing emergency calls, and the 
> caller's IP 
> >> >access network has a supporting role.  The underlying 
> specifications 
> >> >allow for the network to take a more expansive role in emergency 
> >> >calls, but such cases are not covered extensively in this 
> document.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Rosen, Brian wrote:
> >> >>In the meeting, there was not consensus on  having applicability 
> >> >>statements.  I would like to propose the following be 
> added to both
> >> >>documents:
> >> >>
> >> >>This document describes a typical Internet environment where the 
> >> >>endpoint device bears most of the burden of implementing 
> emergency 
> >> >>calls, and the origination network has a minor role.  The 
> >> >>underlying specifications permit the network to take a more 
> >> >>expansive role in emergency calls, which Is not covered 
> extensively in this document.
> >> >>
> >> >>
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