Re: [Ecrit] Proposal to add"applicability"statementto-framework/-phonebcp

["DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <drage at alcatel-lucent.com>]

Well at the end of the day, we are discussing what we want in the ecrit document. 

3GPP is a member organisation, and indeed if I recall correctly Andrew is a supporting organisation of one of the relevant organisations. It is the member organisations who decide what the document says.

Go write your contribution.

Keith 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dawson, Martin [mailto:Martin.Dawson at andrew.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:55 AM
> To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Hannes Tschofenig; Randall Gellens; 
> Stark, Barbara; Brian Rosen; Richard Barnes
> Cc: ecrit at ietf.org; Rosen, Brian
> Subject: RE: [Ecrit] Proposal to 
> add"applicability"statementto-framework/-phonebcp
> 
> The apparent lack of logical symmetry in that comment baffles me.
> 
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DRAGE, Keith (Keith) [mailto:drage at alcatel-lucent.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 11:40 AM
> To: Dawson, Martin; Hannes Tschofenig; Randall Gellens; 
> Stark, Barbara; Brian Rosen; Richard Barnes
> Cc: ecrit at ietf.org; Rosen, Brian
> Subject: RE: [Ecrit] Proposal to
> add"applicability"statementto-framework/-phonebcp
> 
> As it does not provide the chance for meeting another 
> framework, it doesn't need to. The ecrit documents do.
> 
> Keith 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dawson, Martin [mailto:Martin.Dawson at andrew.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:34 AM
> > To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Hannes Tschofenig; Randall 
> Gellens; Stark, 
> > Barbara; Brian Rosen; Richard Barnes
> > Cc: ecrit at ietf.org; Rosen, Brian
> > Subject: RE: [Ecrit] Proposal to add"applicability" 
> > statementto-framework/-phonebcp
> > 
> > Sure - but do they actually say "This framework may not address 
> > requirements that are addressed by other frameworks"?
> > Which is what is actually being asked for here. And which, btw, I 
> > think is a pretty pointless comment anyway.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DRAGE, Keith (Keith) [mailto:drage at alcatel-lucent.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 11:25 AM
> > To: Hannes Tschofenig; 'Randall Gellens'; 'Stark, Barbara'; 'Brian 
> > Rosen'; 'Richard Barnes'
> > Cc: Dawson, Martin; ecrit at ietf.org; 'Rosen, Brian'
> > Subject: RE: [Ecrit] Proposal to add"applicability"
> > statementto-framework/-phonebcp
> > 
> > I think you will find that the stage 3 3GPP document 
> already contains 
> > the statement of what it is applicable to. It does not in 
> itself claim 
> > to solve the worlds problems.
> > 
> > That covers ETSI TISPAN and 3GPP2 as well.
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > Keith
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ecrit-bounces at ietf.org
> > [mailto:ecrit-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf
> > > Of Hannes Tschofenig
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:41 PM
> > > To: 'Randall Gellens'; 'Stark, Barbara'; 'Brian Rosen'; 'Richard 
> > > Barnes'
> > > Cc: 'Dawson, Martin'; ecrit at ietf.org; 'Rosen, Brian'
> > > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Proposal to add"applicability" 
> > > statementto -framework/-phonebcp
> > > 
> > > Btw, is the plan to put similar statements into 3GPP, etc. 
> > > documents as well? 
> > > 
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: ecrit-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces at ietf.org]
> > > On Behalf
> > > >Of Randall Gellens
> > > >Sent: 24 March, 2009 14:32
> > > >To: Stark, Barbara; Brian Rosen; Richard Barnes
> > > >Cc: Dawson, Martin; ecrit at ietf.org; Rosen,Brian
> > > >Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Proposal to add"applicability" 
> > > >statementto -framework/-phonebcp
> > > >
> > > >At 4:35 PM -0400 3/24/09, Barbara Stark wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>  I was doing fine with the course of this discussion till this 
> > > >> "interoperability" word came into the picture. I'm not
> > > convinced we
> > > >> have  an "interoperability issue". I do think that how this
> > > >framework
> > > >> "interconnects" to other networks is something that is not
> > > >covered in
> > > >> this document, and that it would be ok to say that this
> > > >isn't covered.
> > > >
> > > >How about a sentence such as "Interworking between the framework 
> > > >described here and other frameworks is not currently specified."
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Randall Gellens
> > > >Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for 
> > > myself only
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